Write up on the Cruiserweights, currently boxing's best division?

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  1. SuperTed

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    You'd have it 175lb and up as heavyweights?
     
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  2. luke

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    140 is the best division, but i like bantam and cruiser, i always love a good ol tear up at 190.
     
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  3. DanishFightfan

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    I think Lebedev, Cunningham and Hernandez are B+... If not A- or borderline A.
     
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  4. Player3

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    Nobody in the Cruiserweight division weighs in @ the 170's, 180's or even the low 190's anyway. Everybody walks around at about 210-215, and weighs in at about a quarter of a lb. under 200. The Cruiserweight division does nothing but drain the Heavyweight division of reasonably solid talent, or what passes for talent in this day and age.

    Based on what exactly?

    :think
     
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  5. DanishFightfan

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    I think Cunningham is a very proven fighter, Henandez beat him.. Lebedev soundly beat Huck :conf
     
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  6. Player3

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    Well, we have a very different standard of what constitutes "A-level" or even B+.

    None of those fighters you mentioned have showcased a consistent level of dominance over the top fighters in their division. And neither of them have a win over an A-level opponent. So i don't see how they can be classed as "A-level".
     
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  7. McGrain

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    Yeah, you said a moutful there. That's gonna end up being the key. They actually have met eachother on a lot of occasions though already - Diablo-Cunningham, Cunningham-Huck, Ofalabi-Huck, Cunnigham-Hernandez. If they could re-settle things now though that would be awesome.

    As it says in the linked article, I honestly believe it is a problem of historical perspective. Cruiserweight as the "ugly stepchild" of the division is accurate.

    Plus, all the principles apart from the poor old Cunningham - "Cunningham is a talented American fighter with the build and dedication of a Marvel superhero but a perfect storm of publicity—he’s a cruiserweight who at one time showed a propensity for clinching and, worst of all, who conducts himself as a gentleman—has left the Stateside press disinterested." - they're all based in Europe.

    I feel for Cunnigham man, he's a road warrior that gets no love.
     
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  8. McGrain

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  9. McGrain

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    Hernandez is an interesting mix that I suspect is wrong-footing opponents with a freakish mix of styles, but I'd agree with you that he looks pretty good. He might be the most interesting in terms of how he will develop.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    This will actually be pretty rare in a division where the principles are well matched and fight each other, regardless of "level".

    How did you have Huck-Povetkin?
     
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  11. Serb Can

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    In shape heavies? That is what's good about the division.
    Because of the Klitschko's most guys are bulking up OR don't even get into boxing unless they can carry 250+ pounds on their frame. Just because Wladimir can be big and still move somewhat fluid, doesn't mean it's that easy for everyone else. You end up with sluggish punchers like Arreola.
    Seriously, what's the point of bringing 215 - 225 lbs into the heavyweight division?
    You might as well work the extra weight off
    and campaign at CW.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    $£, unfortunately.
     
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  13. benner

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    Lebedev ? A shot to **** RJJ was having his moments with Lebedev. Some dumb judge actually managed to score it for Jones.
     
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  14. Webbiano

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    Underrated division no doubt. P4P it can't really work. Generally cruiserweight is a division that people establish themselves in and then move up - Haye, Adamek, Huck, Holyfield etc. I rate it right up there with the welterweight divisions (light and super included) aswell as the loaded bantamweight division. Huck, Cunningham, Hernandez, Lebedev, Afolabi, Tarver and Wlodarczyk (although overrated at 2 in many rankings) Looks pretty Damn good to me, and if fights are made between these seven were in for some wars.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Lebedev is definitely limited and although he's a very hard puncher he has diffiulty getting it across. But any division needs fighters like him. Flawed, but if he gets lucky/smart he can put out almost anyone. So he's a part of the division's make up. It's got a cracking top 5, but part of the reason it's so interesting is that it has guys like that bubbling under.

    Boy, isn't that the truth. But the Huck case is interesting. Moves up, is in a **** fight, gets robbed, comes back down and has a FOTY candidate with Afalobi. You have to go where the money is I guess but a rematch would be the natural fight for him right now. Would you rather see him rematch Ofa or Huck?
     
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