wtf did Kostya Tszyu do to get into the HOF ????

Come on list his best opponents. Even his biggest win, Meldrick Taylor, was controversial.

 

are you seriously questioning me on chavez's career :rofl:rofl

gtfo
i try to stay away from chavez threads because he's one of the most underrated fighters ever....pisses me off the lack of respect shown towards him

 

So you just make other thread disrespecting other great fighters.

Two wrongs don't make a right Freddy.

 

That's pretty weak...

 

tell me about it....

 

Well you started a thread that was full of **** and now people are dragging - Unfairly - the great JCC's name down into the mud too.

But then again you reap what you sow.

 

they drag his name into the mudd cause they wouldn't know a quality fighter if he hit them in the liver...

 

:yep:yep:yep

 

Through the first half of his career he fought rather similar to his amateur days. People always label him as having average handspeed and being a slow starter that is rather easy to hit.

In the middle to late in his career that's how he was most of the time but for the first part it was the complete opposite, very good handspeed, very fast starter and was virtually untouchable when he wanted to be. At some point he realized he had a very sturdy chin and i really think he just stopped giving a **** about being hit, knowing he could walk through a shot and land his, having complete faith in his power.

I also think the people around him didn't help. I really don't like Johnny Lewis, he's a good conditioning guy but as an actual trainer he hurt Tszyu alot in my opinion.

 

Mexican cab drivers still speak his name in hushed tones. :good

 

Replace Whitaker with Ivan Calderon, Duran with Michael Katsidis and Jones Jr. with Jean Pascal and I might take your list seriously.

 

The following fighters are better than anyone Tszyu ever beat at the stage he beat them:

Meldrick Taylor (first fight)
Jose Luis Ramirez
Edwin Rosario
Rocky Lockridge
Roger Mayweather (second fight)
Frankie Randall (dodgy win, admitted)

Even if you take these names off Chavez's record, I bet his resume can still stand up to Kostya's in terms of quality:

Hector Camacho
Greg Haugen
Juan Laporte
Roger Mayweather (first fight)
Mario Martinez
Lonnie Smith
Tony Lopez
Ruben Castillo
Rafael Limon (hey, you'd include Tszyu's win over Chavez right? Why not throw in a corpse?)
Terrence Alli
Sammy Fuentes
Meldrick Taylor (second time round)
Rodolfo Aguilar
Giovanni Parisi

Is Tszyu's resume really any better than that?

If you bother to put in guys like Roger Mayweather, Calvin Grove, Juan Laporte for Tszyu, I'll just throw in another Frankie Randall or Ivan Robinson win your way.

If you want to include a Jan Bergman or Hugo Pineda, I'll throw about 10 flashy recorded fighters (who hadn't beaten anyone) your way that Chavez disposed off.

 

Yeah but you think Its Kostya's fault he was avoided by when they had such fighters in his division as

Oscar Dela Hoya at one stage
Miguel Cotto
Floyd Mayweather
Arturo Gatti

You think Kostya didnt want those fights i mean he took a Fight with Ricky Hatton in England because Floyd was doing his thing and Cotto and his management felt Miguel was no were near ready to face Tszyu.

Tszyu would take all those fights in a ****ing heart beat.

You Know we Know but still you raise ****ing questions and its not Tszyu's fault he injured his Powerful right shoulder during his Prime and missed two years.

FFS some people in here are ****ing just plain DUMB.

I remeber Kostya saying he wants big fights only big fights but Showtime and HBO would not come together which is another reason.

Do people forget really how much or how little they know about the sport.

****ing Trolls.

And for Freddy who i class as a fair and stable Family man that i enjoy talking to has lost the plot on this one even his best Bro Kirk wouldnt agree with Freddy on this one what does that tell you.

 

Hey and guys still not one person when i gave full blown break down of kostya tszyu's career compared to aaron pryors i still have not had one come back or one debate and yet still people feel pryor is a lock in the hall of fame so why the **** not tszyu.





Still waiting for evidence on why pryor resume is better oh thats right its not so thats why i didnt get a response.


****ing amateur hour in this thread.

 

Anyone else but me believe prime 4 prime Tszyu beats Chavez and in a convincing matter too, likely Ko? :think

I dont buy the myth that Chavez has an undentable chin above 135 just cause he took flush shots from Rosario at 135. :bart