Wtf is the minimum age to become a Thai prizefighter???

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    1) Canelo and MAB were too young. I think in Mexico they don't expressly forbid competition under 16 (although I've never heard of younger than 15, so that must be the hard limit as Canelo and MAB are both considered very much the exception and not the rule) - but rather in good-taste common practice 16 is the norm, especially the deeper into modern era you get. In most United States jurisdictions the blanket rule is 18, but some commissions have granted special licenses for 17 (ie José Benavidez applied for one, I believe, successfully petitioning the NSAC to let him start early due to his demonstrably prodigious amateur track record)

    2) you were threatened with a ban for merely inquiring about my experience? :dunno When and in what thread was this? I can only imagine that would've been my fellow mods hyper-vigilantly getting my back as there was a poster here (and on the Lounge) that had some weird vendetta toward me for a while (I think for banning him for white supremacist hate speech or something) and was making ad hominem attacks, dredging up personal details about me etc. Maybe they assumed you were another of his alts...which, if so, I'm sorry you got caught in those crosshairs. Anyway, to make a long story medium length - shrunk down for decorum, because wall of text about myself, ew - yes, my relationship with boxing has been very staccato for my entire life, dating to when I was quite young (several years less old than Phoobadin is now, but always brought along in a very controlled and safe manner and never thrust unreadily into serious competition before even completing puberty) but have never stuck with it long enough in any one duration to gain any momentum. Life always has gotten in the way (until I became too old to join the national ranks of amateur novices per the USBA juniors cutoff, and then eventually the senior limit as well so that now my only remaining option for amateur competition would be the burnouts, white collar dabblers and reformed fatties of the Masters division at 35+) and has, to my embarassment, continued to in the intervening couple of years since I announced the reduction in my presence on here to finally make a serious run at it. Until thirteen months ago (August 1st, 2017 at 9:55pm EST, to be precise) I was a pack a day smoker of cigarettes until going cold-turkey and surrendering my last bastion of self-destructive behaviors masquerading as self-medication for quite severe depression and general anxiety (some moderate amount of which I came by innately, but exacerbated tenfold by life circumstances and stressors that led one clinician to say candidly and through unchecked tears "IMO most otherwise healthy and well-adjusted people without generic markers for anxiety or depression would have, in your position, gone from zero to sixty in no time flat and been driven to having sought an escapist release, in the form of either suicidal ideation or behaviors, and/or a crippling hard drug habit" - long story I won't get into here). My lungs have taken all 13 months to reach the feel of pre-smokin clarity, and yes I have been in various gyms since about New Year's and have only recently begun to have recaptured most of the wind required to defend oneself in the square. I'm ****ing old as hell now, though, and have lost a great deal of the handspeed that used to be my signature and make coaches' eyes light up like cartoon dollar signs in my youth. So...yeah. :nusenuse: Doesn't help that I'm poor, have always been and likely will always be, and yet live in a city that despite its rich tapestry or pugilistic history no longer has any of the cheap, dingy, honest old-fashioned boxing gyms that you see in films like Rocky (though other metropolises like Philly & NYC do still, in relative abundance) - anyplace that exists now around here with so much as one heavy bag is either an MMA facility (since that is where the money is) or a more upscale "fitness club" that happens to have some "boxing" classes ..in neither case are there any good old-fashioned coaches who KSAB to be found (little did I realize the ones teaching me in childbood were even then a slowly dying breed). I can't afford $150/mo to belong to a gym where nobody including the staff takes boxing any more seriously than losing weight or bragging about being a "fighter" (despite never so much as sparring or having any intent to) on Instagram, and even if money were no object, no place that is locally accessible would be the right fit. So my options are to self-train on a dilapidated bag in the basement and try contacting old gym friends scattered far and wide in the hopes they still dabble and want to spar...or to give up the ghost.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Wow, when did you get hit with tard stick?

    Poverty exists the world over. In not many places, though, does society deem it acceptable to push underdeveloped children into bloodsports.

    That's such a blatant false equivalency, I can't help but respect you much less for having posted that, sadly.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    And don't even get me started on peewee/high school American football. :shakehead:

    edit: I'm not actually sure whether you were being flippant/sarcastic or not, as IDGAF about baseball and don't really know whether the mechanics there are problematic in terms of musculature development in adolescence)
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll let you get back on your soap box, IB. :lol:

    Pound out another thesis for the slob uneducated barbarian masses of this boxing forum. You're an investigative journalist highlighting the real behind the scenes truths that none of knew of before! Light bringer. You think you're banging the drum and championing for all the worlds poor teenage boxers within but you honestly just sound like a first world out of touch white guy who decided to get offended about something today and chose this.

    Keep doing you though, brah.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Cool, well, we're officially done. And I'm not @CST80, I dont throw hissyfits over minor disagreements and throw around sentiments like "were not friends anymore!" lightly, only to kiss & make up the next day.

    You just died on this hill, and lost me. Sucks, but okay then.
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I know things like other peoples differing opinions are neutron star dense projectiles that stab right through the heart! :lol: How unforgivable and terrible.

    Like I said, do you man. I think it's clearly a puffed up writing exercise on your part but if you need to vent via proxy and pretend you're educating everyone, go for it.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Even from 14 to 15 is a monumental leap, btw, all you stupid fucknut Thai (or even Mexican) boxing apologists...14 to 18 is a billion light-years.
     
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  8. RingKing75

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    I like it. Id rather have my kid living a clean life slugging it out in a ring then running in the streets acting like a jack ass. Ehh. but thats just me. America is getting softer by the minute.
     
  9. IKSAB

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    14 year olds prizefighting don't sit well with me but you can't even begin to compare poverty in the west to places like Thailand. Kids in the developing world are forced to do far worse things to survive.
     
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  10. Sammy123

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    Happened all the time with Mike Tyson, Cus loved throwing him in with full grown adults.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Of course they do, and of course that's terrible. And am I tacitly endorsing any of that by saying fight promoters shouldn't be going after preteens to figuratively & literally bleed dry?

    NO I'M FUCKING NOT. Jesus.
     
  12. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I wasn't implying that, relax.
     
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  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shhh, hush now. We as white people living in America totally have the right to judge established long standing systems in the third world, especially when it comes to things like poverty and children starving. That's what being white it all about baby, privilege!

    Funny, you don't hear any outrage at all in here about the death squads in the Phillipines that'll execute you on site for drug possession, or other actual massive human right violations going on in the world at this very moment.

    That damn teenage boxing though, the uncouth barbarians! :lol:
     
  14. Okin129

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    Mike Tyson fighting at heavyweight with 18 years old was also too early. Most 18 year olds aren't developed enough to fight against bigger heavier grown man.

    Those guys from Minimumweight to Lightweight all have bodies like children and the Kid wasn't fighting against a
    bigger guy like Mike Tyson did most of the time.

    I don't think it's dramatic.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    @Russell, you might have missed the department-wide memo while busy preening over your little YT channel that nobody cares about, but us Liberals™ aren't supposed to resort lazily to arguments from whataboutism. ;) Not a good look.

    "Thai kids starve in the street every day so you can't be upset about the predators in their country's boxing scene shoving them into combat before they're done growing! Out of touch first world white blah blah blah buzzwords! I'm EDGY and worldly and woke!" ...meh.
     
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