Yamanaka vs Moreno

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  1. Boxing Prospect

    Boxing Prospect Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    115-113, 115-113, 113-115

    Yamanaka
    They must have given him the 12 for that.
     
    Boxing Prospect, Sep 22, 2015
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  2. boxingfan83

    boxingfan83 New Member Full Member

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    this fight is in japan so they are going to give the close rounds to the champion and if yamanka is winning these championship rounds he has this fight in the bags imo i really want moreno to win
     
    boxingfan83, Sep 22, 2015
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Damn that was close.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Moreno has always been every bit as good as even the Panamanian press bills him to be.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Sep 22, 2015
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  5. lllegion

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    I thought that was clear... but I guess not
     
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    A Split Decision in a Moreno fight in his opponents' back yard?

    Shocking. Unthinkable.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Sep 22, 2015
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  7. Boxing Prospect

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    To break it down
    First 4 ultra close
    Rounds 5,6,8, 9 were clearly Moreno's only a fool would argue
    Rounds 7,10,11 seemed to be Yamanaka's
    Round 12 was a toss up

    Some have given Moreno the 5 close rounds rounds, no argument there though it will explain some of the complaints folk are having on twitter.
     
    Boxing Prospect, Sep 22, 2015
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  8. HamburgBuam

    HamburgBuam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sinsuke Yamanaka - Anselmo Moreno

    1: 10:9
    2: 10:9
    3: 9:10
    4: 10:9
    5: 9:10
    6: 9:10
    7: 10:9
    8: 9:10
    9: 9:10
    10: 10:9
    11: 9:10
    12: 10:9

    114-114 DRAW
     
    HamburgBuam, Sep 23, 2015
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  9. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the open scoring really made the fight better. Moreno had to press more after knowing he was down by 2 points from two judges and succeeded to have the two judges scoring even after 8. Knowing the score, Yamanaka exerted his will in the final 4 rounds to win the fight. Without opened scoring I think Yamanaka would have played it safe and perhaps lose the fight or at least a conservative looking last 4 rounds.
     
    BlueBottle, Sep 23, 2015
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  10. Boxing Prospect

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    I'll admit I've long been a supporter of open scoring and I think this fight was a great example of it working properly. Tends to be a lot cases of it working well in Japan (where they use it for OPBF and Japanese title fights as well as WBC ones). Sadly some are opposed to it on the basis that it ruins a fight but it can also improve a fight, as it did here.

    I know that in some cases you'll have a guy be conservative in the final rounds when they know they are in the lead, Takuma Inoue sort of did that against Mark Anthony Geraldo...but we've had that anyone with recent Mayweather fights (among others). IMO with good scoring open scoring can help a fight, with awful judging the open scoring just ****es the fans off.
     
    Boxing Prospect, Sep 23, 2015
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