Yarde showed more Heart in one fight than Bivol& AB in their Careers

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  1. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It says they went on sale Friday... The link doesn't have any purchase info. I get the feeling the beterbiev will pull out & fight Pascal instead. AB doesn't have a track record taking on boogeymen
     
  2. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beterbiev has fought NO ONE to be in the same breath as Kovalev
     
  3. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yarde did nothing wrong, his stock has gone up & rightly so.
    next step get to McGuigans & sign up there ditch the no spar trainer ...who is his spar but lifes life & he ain't up to the job.
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd question bertos ability but heart? He showed that in his fights with ortiz, Guerrero, soto karras and Alexander
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Have bivol or beterbiev been in a 50-50 fight or the underdog in a fight?

    I dont know if they've been presented an opponent who could prove they have heart
     
  6. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He also hasn’t fought anyone to be mentioned in the same breath as Hopkins/Dawson/Pascal etc. That doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t end their lives as well. Kovalev couldn’t beat Beterbiev on his best day in his prime, he certainly isn’t doing it now.
     
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  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What do they need to prove that for? Why do you even assume that you need heart to beat Kovalev? Why would a fighter that is a beast/undefeated ever have to be in a 50/50 fight or be an underdog?
    Heart can lose you a fight in boxing (see Kovalev against Ward) but it’s not going to give you physical skills/abilities that actually win you a fight.
     
  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    People have lost their minds.

    Am I the only one who saw a 36 year old fighter, who had/has serious alcohol issues, at the very end of his career win nearly every round against a 26 year old, fresh fighter and ultimately knock him out with a JAB.

    Warren, Tunde, Yarde all said this was the time to fight Kovalev, he was at the end of his career, too many tough fights, cracks in his amour... remember?

    So Yarde fought a man they all believed was basically finished and lost handily in the end.


    Now because Yarde did better than quite a few thought (because that's how lowly most rate Yarde) it's being turned in to some sort of "coming out party".


    I tell you what, let Yarde have a little break, a quick warm up and go and fight another world champion, see how he gets on.. I would heavily back the other champions to smash his head in.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brits jump through hoops to defend their fighters. They can't accept that their beloved fighters are rather mediocre.
     
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  10. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When did Bivol quit or not display "heart"?? that fight against Barrera was pretty tough. he showed lots of heart.
     
  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol and Beter both took concussive power shots from huge punchers and kept fighting, Yarde was broken down and stopped with a jab. Even the narrative of Yarde having the courage to 'go all out' in the eighth is suspect since it seems he hurt Kov with a counter punch after slipping a RH and only then went for it. It wasn't like he suddenly just came forward putting it on the line, walking through fire, he landed a good one doing the same slickster bull**** and then followed up as anyone would.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Most people here were backing Yarde to lose in 4/5 rounds. And Britain has had some incredible fighters, and much much less hype jobs than America.

    When was the last time a yank traveled to Russia for a title shot?
    When was the last time a yank stepped up to World level with hardly any experience and took a top 10 pfper 11 rounds?
    Yarde did well. His lack of experience showed in the end.
     
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  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Yeah, forget the teachings of Angelo Dundee, Freddie Roach, Eddie Futch, Cus D'Amato, Emanuel Steward etc.... Tunde knows best....
     
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  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wasnt making my comment in relation to how they would do vs Kovalev

    I pick both at this point to beat kovalev and they pass the eye test. Both also have some good wins I wasnt saying they are bum beaters they must haven't had any fights they were expected to struggle in and haven't had much adversity yet

    Beterbiev vs Gvosdk will tell us a lot about how good beterbiev is and I'm excited for that fight
     
  15. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya I felt bad for Yarde. Dont get me wrong, Kova really showed some ice the way he came out in the 9th, but Yarde would have had a better shot if he had a competent trainer. Kova has slipped a lot, maybe enough that Yarde could have pulled it off with a competent trainer.
     
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