Yes, Floyd Has Skills.......but

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freddy-wak, Dec 5, 2007.


  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    did tyson always do 1.9 mill....**** NO, but leading up to it he was getting there...just like oscar...it was eventually gonna happen :deal :deal

    do your saying floyd can go from 350 to 2 mill :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    no, but i can see oscar from 1.2 to 2.4 :deal :deal :deal
     
  2. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Double is not getting there. It's not a gradual progression. PBF had alot to do with those numbers. DLH brought in what he always does. Tell me Freddy, why would DLH suddenly double his PPV numbers in a time frame when boxing is less popular and when DLH is an aging fighter?

    I am not saying PBF went from 350k to 2 million. I think you know what I'm saying and all the emoticons and jokes in the world won't change it. DLH and PBF together did those numbers, with probably 70% coming for DLH. But 30% of 2 million is alot.
     
  3. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    cause OSCAR has that about him....he's "supposedly" what boxing needed.....YEAH, IN A COMMERCIAL WAY...but boxing never needed a cash cow like that....

    when boxing is doing bad, all of a sudden the golden boy is supposed to come back and ko the world.....
    he comes back, ko's mayorga , which to non-boxing fans it was impossible......his stock rose from that alot with the whole "oscar is back" thing.....commercial america fell for it, NOT ME
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really? What were the numbers from DLH-Mayorga?

    Your issues with the fighters doesn't change their drawing power, which is the issue you brought up.
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    i think it broke a mil..or came damn close to

    and this is after a long layoff, and some wakk ass performances....
     
  6. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are wrong.

    The reason why the fight was so popular and brought so much money is the promotion of it. Its Oscar DLH vs p4p #1, if that p4p #1 was Yori Boy Campas the fight would bring even more money. My friends who dont watch boxing tuned into this fight because Oscar was fighting some dude who is supposed to be the best in all of boxing.

    30%? you are insane. You dont understand the marketing side of it. Its not Oscar vs Mayweather (that only appeals to real boxing fans) its Oscar vs p4p #1 its Oscar vs an undefeated fighter who is supposed to be the best in all of boxing, it doesnt matter to casual fans who this #1 p4p is.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    there are several reasons why oscar vs floyd sold so much. it was one of the most heavily promoted fights of all times. people who dont know boxing heard oscar(whom everybody knows) was fighting who people claim is the best fighter out there right now. people who do know boxing felt oscar had a chance at knocking out one of the least liked fighters out there right now. and the number of households equipped with ppv capabilities is probably double what it was several years ago and probably triple what it was when oscar fought tito. all this together made the numbers what they are. floyd does deserve some credit but be realistic and take these facts into account when deciding how much floyd really had to do with all this.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're wrong. DLH fought Trinidad when they were 2 of the 3 top fighters in the world, BOTH unbeaten, and both had huge fanbases. It did no where NEAR that much. DLH fought Hopkins when AFTER Hopkins beat Trinidad...it did no where NEAR that much. Both fights were marketed based on DLH and the prestige of the other fighter. So casual fans didn't see fit to tune into those fights at even half the rate of the PBF-DLH fight and you think it's simply a coincidence?

    I understand perfectly the marketing side of it. You're underestimation of having a good "heel" character to play off of is where there is a misunderstanding. What will be your reasoning if PBF-Hatton does 700K? Neither has done anywhere near that by themselves....and DLH isn't involved.....so then what?
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why would more people be PPV capable now? It's not a new technology and the income level has not gone up giving people more access. On top of this, they cost MORE NOW, and boxing is LESS popular.
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    if you buy a high def tv you have to buy high def programing to enjoy it and that comes with ppv options. high def has just recently started to be bought by the masses. so the guy who used to watch the fight at the sports bar can now watch it at home with his buddies on his new lcd.
     
  11. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Freddy you are looking like an idiot in this thread, Mayweather has **** loads of money and who cares.
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you have a high def TV (like I do) you buy the best available programming. There are very few high def channels, most are still digital. And on Comcast, they have not put fights into High Def on PPV yet. That is neither here nor there.

    People still had tv's, no matter the type years before the PBF-DLH fight. They had access to PPV just as they do now. If it were a case of more access to PPV, then ALL PPV numbers would be up across the board, not just for that fight.
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    they are up across the board. why do you think boxing is losing to mixed martial arts and wrestling even though numbers for boxing are increasing.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those numbers are skewed. Wrestling's numbers are DOWN. And I have heard nothing about boxing's PPV's being up. Their DOLLAR amounts may be up, but the cost per PPV is much higher than it was before.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so what your saying is that 2003 for example had more boxing ppv buys than 2007? no.