Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

You wrote a bunch of words and managed to not answer a single question I asked you in that post, pretty talented deflection buddy.

Now, you going to answer any of the questions or repeat the same stuff you've said page after page after page?


So the reason Manny didn't take the tests was his feelings were hurt and image 'damaged', although his PPV numbers and gate attendance hasn't been effected? That what you're saying?

And you as a boxing fan accepted that reasoning for the fight not happening.. Furthermore, you actually blame Floyd for demanding the strictest testing he can instead of the professional prize fighter who's refusing to take the strictest testing that can be negotiated because his feelings were hurt and image damaged?

 

All of Floyd's demands? He had ONE stipulation..Pac had plenty too ...testing didnt get agreed to until pac started losing and had no leverage :hi: floyd didnt need pac after that

 

It's called negotiating you fool.

Why did Floyd want OSDT all the way up to the fight, when nobody else has done who's fought him???

Come on, let's have the answer?

Why didn't Floyd want to clean up the sport before 2009, when he'd been fighting since 1996???

It was 13 years until that beacon of light hit him.

 

And Pac is the only fighter trying to negotiate a cutoff, for a random test.

He thought Pac was cheating, it's been said a million times. I've already stated Floyd wants to insure his opponent is clean, while showing he is at the same time. Floyd felt Pac was dirty, so he wanted both to test to prove they were clean, quite simple. :huh

 

Let's see one of the clowns on here actually try and discuss and debate what you've said.

All you're going to get, is a question from them in answer to your points.

They haven't got the intelligence to debate this.

 

What?

It's his Dad for **** sake.

He's always part of the camp whether he's there or not.

He started the rumours and then Little Floyd and everyone else ran with them.

 

Floyd felt Pac was dirty... Pretty much answers anything and everything said in that long post with one sentence... He thought Pac was dirty, so he tried to negotiate the strictest testing he could put in a contract before a fight. Not really anything to debate in that post...

You guys feel Mayweather was scared... Ok? What's your point? IF Mayweather was scared and demanded the tests, what the **** does that have to do with Pac not agreeing?

It's like you think you get some sort of victory by saying you think Mayweather was scared of Pac.. If Pac agreed to the damn tests in the first negotiations when Floyd agreed to everything else AND PPV sales were the closest between them we'd have a fight..

 

He was scared of a fighter with no proof. Why is he scared of Pacquiao being on roids and asking for extended drug testing for him and making accusations. Why wasn't he worried years earlier about other opponents of his being dirty when fighters HAD ACTUALLY BEEN CAUGHT juicing. My whole point is Mayweather and his whole schtick about cleaning up the sport is him saving face after the whole Pacquaio fiasco and he wouldn't be doing it otherwise and other fighters do much better testing.

 

Why don't you read what I've actually wrote.

The reason Manny didn't originally agree to all of Floyd's testing demands, is because he wasn't going to be pushed around By Floyd. He wasn't going to give into his demands, when no other fighter had asked such a thing, in such a way, and Floyd's Dad had started making rumours about him.

Are you following?

Then in order to try and make the fight, he started back and forth negotiations with Floyd. After a while, everything was agreed upon.

I don't blame Floyd for wanting to clean the sport up.

I'm blaming him for the way he went about doing it.

Do you understand?

You keep going on about how Manny refused the testing, but you are completely glossing over the fact that in the end he did agree.

 

Ha! Oh right, just the ONE?

Which was OSDT all the way up to the fight, after The Mayweather's had accused him of being a cheat.

Oh I see, that was perfectly reasonable.

 

you certainly like to make up **** thats for sure.

dad told floyd to ask for tests - false
pac cancelled the fight because floyd slandered him - false

anything else you lying about?

 

Yup, thats ONE stipulation. 14 day cutoff, and pac RAN from the fight. how you can defend that is crazy

 

Floyd only started cleaning up the sport when a little midget came and scared the **** out of him. Now he has to test everybody or else he looks like a dumbass .

 

He thought what Pac was doing was not natural. He didn't want to get in the ring with someone who was cheating, so he asked for both to take the same tests to insure both are clean. He didn't feel any of his previous opponents were cheating, so he didn't ask them.

He's clearly not going around cleaning the sport himself, as only his opponents are taking the tests.. I think how Pac refused to take the tests without a cutoff opened Floyd's eyes, as well as many others on possible cheating. He's stuck to his stance since, and there has been fighters caught by random testing since.

That's your opinion on if he's just trying to save face or actually trying to insure his future opponents are clean.. I'd say with the number of fighters caught by random testing since Floyd requested it of Pac is reason enough for him to continue to require it for all opponents, as we see people ARE cheating. So, it's different opinions.. Neither can say they are right, because we're not Floyd. Both could be right.

 

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