Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

he asked it before floyd too against oscar and cotto.....

does that mean he was scared they were too big or somethin?

 

I accept the way that Manny initially refused to give into Floyd's demands.

If beforehand, Floyd had stated that he wanted to clean up the sport, and he'd like his next opponent whoever it may have been to under go certain tests, then that would have been fine.

But Manny was accused of being a cheat. He was ridiculed by the Mayweather's and then was given demands.

Stop implying that you're all for a clean sport, but I'm not.

I have the same standards as you.

But Floyd is not bigger than boxing.

Floyd made demands in a certain tone, after ridiculing Manny, and then when Manny refused to give into those demands, you've got an issue?

You expected a guy who was publicly slandered, to just say "Yes Floyd, I'll do whatever you want" ?

Under the circumstances, it was more than a valid reason.

How many fights has Manny had?

Nobody else has demanded what Floyd has.

It amuses me how you refuse to take that into consideration.

 

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No!

 

where are u gettin info from? never has pac ever said he walked from the fight because floyd "slandered him" why make excuses for manny that didnt happn

 

How did he run, when he agreed to everything in the end?

In your eyes, he stopped running at that point. So why wouldn't Floyd fight him then?

Why didn't Floyd sit down and discuss realistic terms, instead of demanding the whole share of the PPV money?

 

I'm not implying you're not for a clean sport, would never say that. What I'm basically asking/implying is you give Pac a pass for skipping on testing, because you think his feelings were hurt and someone said his image was damaged.. I look at things for myself, and his image wasn't damaged at all if represented by his PPV numbers and Gate revenue. So I can't buy that as an excuse to pass on the testing, especially when your team said from the beginning testing wasn't going to be an issue at all.

He wasn't saying he'll do whatever Floyd wants.. Floyd had concerns, as a top prize fighter I expected Pac to end the concerns and speculation by showing the world what he's been doing was with natural abilities. He instead did the exact opposite... Having his team say they'd take the tests with no problem, only to turn around and request a bunch of cutoff dates.

Floyd is a big **** talker.. If saying Pac was dirty got under his skin, he'd be in for a very long press tour fighting Floyd... I just don't see that being big enough to stop the fight, if indeed you're a clean fighter. I don't get it.

 

If anyone can find this excuse from Pac I'd love to see it to.. It's the most used excuse from his fans, but I don't recall him ever saying it..

 

atsch When you have to resport to spinning something, it means you have nothing.


Why would you say he never missed the WW limit, when you know damn well he missed the agreeed upon weight w/ JMM? And yet, you carefully phrase it in an attempt to make a point that isn't there. You aren't genuine at all with the **** you post. In other words, you have no qulams twisting the truth to fit your agenda. #1 reason I refuse to even debate posters like you.

 

:deal

 

Spinning? Twisting the truth?

Did he miss the WW limit?

Did he and JMM agree upon a weight limit below the WW limit, because I thought they did?

Please tell me what point you thought I was trying to make.

My point was simple, Pac had concerns about Floyd missing the WW limit. Floyd has never missed making the WW limit.

Floyd had concerns about Pac failing stricter testing. Pac has never failed a test.

 

floyd no lnger needed manny. everyone was laughin at the fight by 2011 especially after jmm spanked him

 

Divi253,

Right, so pretend your in Manny's shoes.

How are you going to even GET into the ring a whoop the guy's ass, when he's constantly moving the goal posts?

How are you going to whoop him when he wants the ENTIRE PPV share?

Does Manny agreeing to everything after back and forth negotiations, say to you that Manny didn't want to work with Floyd, and didn't want the fight?

Why was it years later? Because Floyd was never happy.

Only?

That wasn't much to ask was it, on top of accusing him of cheating?

You want to talk about business logic?

Floyd agreed to 50-50, and Manny said he wanted a guarantee.

Next thing, Floyd's explaining to journalists why he can't give him one.

Floyd's supposed to be in the cheque cashing business.

The fight with Manny could have potentially made anything from $200-300m.

Yet instead of discussing reasonable terms, he demanded the entire PPV revenue and killed the fight from happening.

Great business!

Floyd in my opinion, deserved the bigger share. But not 3 x the amount that he was offering to Manny. The offer was a JOKE, and no serious businessman would have done such a thing.

That just shows you how serious Floyd was about trying to make the fight.

 

Agreeing with a **** post now? C'mon Pimp, ypou're better than that.

You know as well as I do that, while Floyd may not have missed a WW limit, he intentionally missed the agreed upon weight vs. JMM. and yet you agree with Div because he spun a post your way. That's just lame how you cannot even be honest about this ****.. atsch

 

Read my post again *****. You know exactly what you did and what I said. atsch Of course, you won't back down. You'll just play dumb as usual, and wait till another floyd fanboy agrees with you.