Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

Economics?

He wanted the entire PPV revenue.

Yeah he was really serious about wanting the fight wasn't he?

 

i love how posters think they can read fighters minds

 

I've said the same thing over in this thread. PBF agreed to Pac's ridiculous 10,000,000 fine but Pac can't agree to a drug test that would be given to both men to ensure a clean fight for the biggests fight of this era. Nothing outrageous about PBF's demand especially in the steroid era of sports. Pac should have had no problems taking the test he said at first it wouldn't be an issue but when PBF pressed they came up with the weight thing thinking PBF would decline but he didn't he accepted but they wouldn't accept his demand and told him to **** off and they went on to fight Clottey.

 

Also he missed a catchweight he never missed a fight at the WW limit that's the difference. Even still PBF agreed to it. Pac should have agreed to something that is good for the sport, thorough testing.

 

Goal post didn't continue moving.. Floyd said he'd accept 14 day cutoff first negotiations, Pac said no. No moving goal post, one demand and they couldn't meet it.

Entire PPV share was put in years later, after Pac said no to the fight.

It says he didn't want the fight at first. He may have wanted it later, but wasn't willing to take less than 50/50 as stated by himself.

Or because it took years for Pac to agree? After Shane and Floyd did the testing without cutoff he said all future opponents will.. Took Pac years to accept testing without cutoff.

No, not drug testing in a combat sport.

What? 50/50 was very first negotiations, when they were closer in terms of PPV. Manny said he'd take less than 50/50 to make the fight, don't make stuff up.

Your estimates on what the fight would make are just a blind guess, they mean nothing.

I agree Manny shouldn't have taken the guarantee.. But that's what you guys like to call negotiations... Manny said he'd take less than 50/50... Floyd tried to take the best deal he could get, giving Manny a set amount. Manny then said 50/50 or no fight, instead of negotiating a fair split. Fight died again after that.

 

imagine if floyd had turned down the 10 million dollar weight penalty and said nah...how about 4 million instead...and that killed the fight!?

pacturds would have had a field day

 

Whether is was a catchweight he missed, or the limit, that doesn't matter. He intentionally missed what he agreed to weigh in at. That's the point.

 

Arum AT the time, was tired of Floyd, and said "I don't believe he's serious, so I don't want him. I want Marquez instead"

Do you know what happened AFTER that?

Bob and Floyd met together for talks.

Look into it.

 

As usual, no response to the post.. Just name calling and fanboy talk. :good

Floyd has never failed to meet the WW limit in a WW fight. He didn't make a catchweight against JMM, one that wouldn't happen in the Pac fight.

I didn't state any lies.. I didn't twist anything, as what I said was 100% the truth. Knowledgeable fans know Floyd didn't make the limit for a catchweight fight with JMM, so I clearly wasn't trying to mislead anyone.

Another example of you making a mountain of a mole hill, although you claim that's what I do.

 

Still doesn't excuse why Pac didn't agree to something we both know is good for the sport, thorough testing.:deal

 

Just as serious as Pac saying he'd take less than 50/50, then turn around and say 50/50 or no fight. :good

Start high, meet in the middle. Pac said he'd take less, Floyd tried to get as much as possible.. Instead of negotiating Pac's team walked away saying 50/50 or no fight.

 

Exactly what I said.. But speaking the truth somehow means I'm twisting the truth, because I didn't bash Floyd in my post.

 

Yeah they would have and rightfully so. Even though the demand IMO was very high PBF still agreed at the end of the day to pay if he was over. All Pac had to do was agree to a thorough PED test and he made every excuse in the book not to take the test. That is suspicious to say the least. If your job comes at you and says hey I need you to take a drug test and you know you're clean you do it no problem but if they come to you and you know you're not you make excuses as to why it isn't needed and threaten to sue for discrimnation.:deal

 

Great post!

What weight did Floyd start out at again?

Didn't he fight Oscar at 152 in 2007?

Come on man, Lil Floyd must be on something man, i'm telling ya, that mother****er must be on something!

 

They would, and I think they should have if it happened. Something put in the contract to prevent you from cheating BEFORE the fight should always be accepted, if it's not an over the top demand. I feel 10 million is a lot per pound, and it was still agreed to with no issue. Because you shouldn't have an issue with it if you know you're not going to cheat.