Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

So you're going to ignore the question completely?

 

well why would he use other excuses and not just that one ur so full of **** now youre making things up

 

Ok, so it's a reason you made up. What official reason did he give?

 

Athletes who would rather sue than prove themselves clean

1. Lance Armstrong

2. Manny Pacquiao

 

Barry Bonds sued a few people too.

 

:deal

 

We can add him to the list too then :good



Athletes who would rather sue than prove themselves clean

1. Lance Armstrong

2. Manny Pacquiao

3. Barry Bonds

4. Marion Jones

 

It's funny cause the last thing team floyd wants is war,they don't encourage that ****.That's exactly what they don't want "No war please" .

 

Stop twisting my words.

I'm not giving him a pass. Manny dug his heels in and didn't bow down to Floyd's demands, because of how he'd been treated. But he started to negotiate, but they could never reach a compromise. So yes, Manny was angry. But he was still open to testing, but after a certain cut off and directly after the fight. But Floyd wouldn't agree. In the end, Manny said "Fine, whatever you want to make it happen."

But it's easy for you to say that, you weren't in Manny's shoes.

You expected Pac to show the world what he'd been doing with natural ability?Yes? But the only way for that to have been possible, was for Manny to immediately say "yes, I'll do whatever you want Floyd." But that was NEVER going to happen after they'd accused him of being a cheat. Manny was never going to give Floyd the power and the satisfaction. That's obvious!

You say he did the exact opposite? Why did he do that?

It put a halt to Floyd's demands straight away. Manny then tried to negotiate, but Floyd wasn't happy. It was like a vicious circle, where in the end they were both trying to score points against each other.

Manny finally agreeing in the end, tells me that he'd have probably have agreed straight away under different circumstances.

 

The Marquez knockout killed the fight.

But before that, the fight was relevant.

If Floyd had been serious, he would never have demanded the PPV money.

 

30 pages of ****.

 

nah when marquez did that to pac in late 2011 arum pretty much pulled the plug on that fight, he knew it was irrelevant, so did floyd and so did most fans

 

Divi253,

He moved the goal posts by what he did after Manny had given in to his testing demands.

Stop comparing what Floyd agreed with other opponents. Whatever he agreed with other opponents isn't relevant. Those negotiations were under different circumstances. It took Floyd 13 years as a pro, before he decided to clean up the sport.

I've no problem with that. But you're pretending it was just a minor stipulation, that was reasonable. But taking everything into account, we know it wasn't.

I don't make things up.

Manny did say he'd take a lesser split. But I was referring to when Floyd offered 50-50, then suddenly went quiet when Manny asked for a guarantee.

It's not my estimate. Have a look online. It was a calculated guess, working off of the magnitude of the fight, the PPV price, and the figures from the Oscar fight from 2007. That fight grossed €120m, and with more households purchasing a Floyd-Manny fight, at a higher price, then it easily would have surpassed that figure. So it means a lot when you saw how Floyd tried to negotiate.

 

Hardly the same as wanting all of the PPV.

Everything was agreed to in the end by Pac, and it still wasn't enough.

 

Arum didnt want the fight


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