Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

**** me!

Read my last post to you, I'm not typing it again.

 

What reason did Manny give for not accepting the tests without cutoff.. Do you know any official reason, not one you're making up by 'reading between the lines'?

Or it tells you he was abusing PEDS, and finally got confident enough to face Floyd without them... Now, tell me why what I said is more far fetched than what you said?

 

Probably, but the Marquez knockout was the final nail in the coffin.

I suspect that Floyd was even happier than Juan.

 

thats after he got his ass kicked , he needed an excuse as to why a 15-1 underdog pushed his **** in

 

actually floyd put out a statement wishing manny well when he got knocked out. it really was the final nail in the coffin, if only arum wouldve got outta the ****ing way

 

Yes, Void is cleaning up the sport by beating up women. Void refused to fight Alvarez, Trout, Martinez at 150, Paul Williams, Pac, etc.................but Void will fight any woman, except perhaps Ann Wolf?

 

Lmao. So it's quite apparent the Floyd fans believe when Floyd tells everyone that he signed a contract or that everything fell apart in negotiations because of Pacquiao. So, apparently, everyone ignores the interviews of Floyd over the years when he is constantly going back and forth and contradicting his self whenever Pacquiao was mentioned. You believe certain things he says, but don't believe he was scared of Manny even though he has admitted on numerous occasions that he was.

When the first round of negotiations took place, Manny said he didn't like getting his blood drawn right before a fight. You can find an older video after he lost to Morales that he didn't like it back then. He said they could take his blood right after the fight. That still wasn't good enough to make Floyd get in the ring with that "midget." A lame excuse? Yeah. But many great athletes have had weird superstitions. If he took the test right after the fight, he still would have been caught if he was using.

What I see in Mayweather is a great boxer who retired at one point when Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, and Mosely were big in the Welterweight division. He retired. Manny took on and defeated all 4 of those fighters. Mosely was the only one he fought after Mayweather. When Mayweather returns, he faces Marquez. A fighter who hadn't even fought at WW yet. Spin things how you want to, but when Mayweather could have been having his legacy fights he chose to retire and only take on those fighters years later and actually never fought some of them. That's why Pac was voted fighter of the decade. He took fights with higher risk, lower reward opponents and never once argued that they aren't big names and don't put asses in seats. He was also the much smaller fighter taking on these challenges. He is physically smaller then Mayweather.

After Mayweather returned and had his great victory over Marquez, he had his chance to go down in history if he would have faced Pacquiao. If he had defeated Pac, it would have been a hell of a legacy boost. Now, when has Mayweather ever been that hard to negotiate with? Ortiz, Hatton, Oscar, and others got in the ring with him pretty easy. You didn't hear him worried for his health or anything when those fighters were brought up. After Marquez, the accusations started about Pacquiao and he admitted himself numerous times to be nervous to get in the ring with him. He tried at times to pump his self up by calling him a midget and ask where was Pacquiao years ago. Truth was, Pacquiao was beating more HoFs then Mayweather was in his career yet that gets ignored also. I can't take anything Mayweather says about negotiations with Pac seriously simply because he was scared to death. You can find countless interviews with him ranting, contradicting his self, and claiming Pac was next only to say he never said that and don't put words in his mouth. This is the man you want to believe had signed a contract and wanted to fight? Even when he said he called Pac and wanted to talk to him man to man. Well, the problem with that is Pac is under contract with Top Rank and he can't handle **** like that over the phone. Everyone who isn't ignorant would know that.

The worst part about it is, Mayweather needed Pacquiao much worse then Pac needed him. It would have cemented his legacy. Pacquiao was already fighter of the decade and generally liked more. It will go down as one of the greatest boxers of this generation in Mayweather who cried so much about how Pacquiao was treated with more respect then him and that he COULD have easily beat that midget but when the fight was their to be made he was scared, by his own admission. It looks even worse when their have been so many fighters getting in the ring with Pac wanting to try and prove themselves and fight the best but when Mayweather had to man up, he couldn't do it. Look at some of his rants, it's quite sad how scared he was and how bad he tried to make Pac look bad and downplay his great career.

Again, if anyone posts a pic of Manny flat on his face you must realize who had the guts and balls to get in the ring with him 4 times even though he was supposedly a juiced up killer. Marquez, a smaller fighter then Mayweather, had no problems constantly getting in the ring and trying to get that well deserved win. Floyd fans now want to say that look what Marquez did to Manny and find comfort in thinking that since Mayweather beat Marquez then Floyd would beat Manny. Unfortunately, styles make fights. Mayweather knows this. He saw something in Pacquiao and wasn't taking the chance of getting in the ring with him and losing his 0 which I'm sure thinks would have hurt his career and ego.

 

"I'm waiting for that fight to happen," said Pacquiao, boxing's only eight-division world champion. "I don't know what's the reason why that fight has not happened. ... It's OK for me if he gets a higher percentage than me."

In January, Mayweather (43-0, 26 KOs), a five-division champion, and Pacquiao (54-4-2, 38 KOs) spoke on the phone about a possible deal during which Mayweather offered to pay him a flat fee of $40 million for a proposed fight but would not allow him to share in the revenue. In the original negotiation, Mayweather agreed to a 50-50 split.

"I spoke to Floyd ... and he offered me an amount," Pacquiao said. "He didn't talk about the pay-per-views here and that's it. I can't agree with that. I told him I agree with 55 and 45 (split)."

The other issue that has prevented the fight -- and there have been multiple failed negotiations -- was Mayweather's demand for random blood and urine testing throughout the build-up to the bout. During the first negotiation, Pacquiao at first declined to participate in such testing but has long said he would agree.

He reiterated that during Thursday's interview.

"No problem," Pacquiao said. "Whatever he wants to do."

Even when Pacquiao previously had softened his stance on random testing, there was still an issue about doing a blood test on the day of the fight. But Pacquiao said Thursday he now would be OK with that, too.

"No problem," he said. "Even the night of the fight. No problem."

 

means nothin when arum said months earlier he wasnt workin with gbp :deal

 

:rofl pacturds are somethin else

 

Lol. I'm going to believe Mayweather because he never once contradicted himself about wanting to fight Pac even though I ignore every interview Floyd has ever had regarding Pac. Of course I'm not going to believe Pac. I heard Pac say Floyd your next only to say he never said that the next day. Oh wait....

 

too bad its not the fighters that sign the fights but the promoters. floyd gave free reign to the promoters to make the fight and manny's side was unnwilling, you need to deal with that

n when the hell was manny getting tested up to the day of the fight? no one said that ever, he gave a 14 day cutoff originally and that still wasnt good enough for manny

 

"I'm waiting for that fight to happen," said Pacquiao, boxing's only eight-division world champion. "I don't know what's the reason why that fight has not happened. ... It's OK for me if he gets a higher percentage than me."

In January, Mayweather (43-0, 26 KOs), a five-division champion, and Pacquiao (54-4-2, 38 KOs) spoke on the phone about a possible deal during which Mayweather offered to pay him a flat fee of $40 million for a proposed fight but would not allow him to share in the revenue. In the original negotiation, Mayweather agreed to a 50-50 split.

"I spoke to Floyd ... and he offered me an amount," Pacquiao said. "He didn't talk about the pay-per-views here and that's it. I can't agree with that. I told him I agree with 55 and 45 (split)."

The other issue that has prevented the fight -- and there have been multiple failed negotiations -- was Mayweather's demand for random blood and urine testing throughout the build-up to the bout. During the first negotiation, Pacquiao at first declined to participate in such testing but has long said he would agree.

He reiterated that during Thursday's interview.

"No problem," Pacquiao said. "Whatever he wants to do."

Even when Pacquiao previously had softened his stance on random testing, there was still an issue about doing a blood test on the day of the fight. But Pacquiao said Thursday he now would be OK with that, too.

"No problem," he said. "Even the night of the fight. No problem."

 

I stopped reading right here. Blatantly false. Here's a great quote from one of the great PED masterminds of all time, Victor Conte:

“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing. I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”


And there is good reason to believe Floyd himself flunked a few of those tests. (Read "The PED Mess" Parts I and II, by Thomas Hauser, the best, most respected boxing writer in the world. The sport is truly ****ed right now.)