Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I meant the testing. If everything was agreed to, then we'd have seen the fight.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't believe that for a second.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    HE didn't want the fight?

    Ha! It was Floyd who wanted OSDT when nobody else did.

    I can't believe that people think Floyd wanted the fight. Just go back and recap everything that's happened.

    Floyd suddenly wanted to clean up the sport in 2009 after THIRTEEN years as a pro. Ha! :lol:
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was talking about a hypothetical scenario where it was vice versa.

    If Manny and Freddie had accused Floyd of cheating and then started issuing demands, what would have happened then?

    I think we both know.

    It's easy for you to say "all Manny had to do was..."

    Do you think Floyd and Ellerbe wouldn't have filed a lawsuit? :lol:
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Divi253,

    After he's been accused of cheating with no proof? It wasn't the commission who ASKED Manny to be tested, it was Floyd who was DEMANDING that the tests be taken.

    So what? I'm intelligent, and I can read between the lines.

    If you deal in facts, let me list you some.


    1. Floyd accused Manny of cheating, with no PROOF.

    2. Floyd DEMANDED something, that he'd never done before, against ANY other opponent.

    3. He suddenly wanted to clean up the sport in 2009, 13 years after turning pro. :lol:

    4. After Manny had given in, and agreed to all the tests, Floyd said he wanted the ENTIRE PPV from the fight.

    5. NO OTHER OPPONENT of Manny's has EVER demanded the same thing. They've just gotten in the ring and fought him.


    You can believe whatever you want to believe.

    The above facts prove to me that Floyd NEVER wanted the fight.

    Hell, 50 Cent tried to make the fight happen and he couldn't. He said that Floyd was scared of losing his zero.

    If you go over everything that's happened, it's staring you in the face why the fight never took place.

    You constantly keep asking why Manny didn't take the tests etc.

    Why don't you ask yourself this question.


    WHY DID FLOYD DEMAND WHAT HE DID IN THE FIRST PLACE??


    Taking blood might weaken him. But the point is, Floyd started the whole thing off.

    You're again glossing over two things.

    1. Manny agreed to be tested straight after the fight.

    2. Manny agreed to the testing in the end, and then Floyd had other issues. What a surprise that was.
     
  6. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We all know if someone made allegations against Floyd and then demanded anything he would turn them down.

    Hell, even after Pacquiao agreed to drug testing Mayweather couldn't even agree on the purse split. Pac said 55/45, but that still wasn't good enough for Floyd. Never mind the fact that Pac has been the only other consistent PPV draw for the last few years and the fact that the only reason it was going to be the biggest fight and most lucrative fight in history for both men was because of Pacquiao. Mayweather doesn't like to be on an even negotiating field with an opponent. Pac was and is the only fighter that could demand things from Floyd, and Floyd's ego couldn't take it.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you serious?
     
  8. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Bingo.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course he never gave an official reason. He was hardly going to come out and state that the reason was because he wasn't giving into Floyd.

    If Manny had've been using PEDS, he'd have had to have used them over a long period of time to gain an advantage.

    Have you ever sat back and thought about things logically?

    People like to compare Manny with the Armstrong case, but they're completely different.

    Lance admitted that he was never once tested outside of his races, and only just prior to one, or just afterwards. At that point, there was nothing in his system. He did it constantly during training in the weeks and months leading up to the race though, to receive the benefits.

    So lets look at things logically with a 21 day cut off, for arguments sake.

    Manny has a 9 week camp.

    For the first 6 weeks he'd be randomly testing, so he couldn't take anything.

    In the last 3 weeks of camp, he'd have been free to do whatever he liked. But remember, he stated that he'd be willing to have a test STRAIGHT after the fight.

    That means, that realistically, he couldn't have had anything in his system in his final week of preperation, incase it showed up in his after fight test.

    So that would have given Manny a 2 week, or a 2 and a half week window to take PEDS.

    Also take into consideration, that he could have been urine tested at any point.

    Now what benefit would Manny have gained in the fight, by taking PEDS for ONLY 2 and a half weeks, in a 9 week camp??

    Break it down, and look at it logically.

    It wouldn't be worth the risk, and he wouldn't gain anything from it.

    Taking PEDS for 2 weeks in a 9 week period, would have been ridiculous.
     
  10. Loudon

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    I know he did, and?

    There's no more pressure on him to take the fight now, because nobody's bothered about seeing it.
     
  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    Cycle on, cycle off, pre fight and post fight tests clean.
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    An outstanding post!
     
  13. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha! A great response to his post.

    Everything he's said is true, and that's all you can answer with? :lol:
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    floyd fans are an average age of 17 or their IQ hover around 63....sometimes booth
     
  15. Bladegunner

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    Sometimes booth?

    :rofl

    The irony