Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

How the **** was Floyd EVER ready to fight, when he'd gone along with his Dad's unsubstantiated claims, and he'd DEMANDED that Manny was to be tested everyday up to the fight, when he'd never demanded such a thing before, and neither had ANYONE else??

 

You can't just go back in time and make up the best possible excuse for someone. You have to look at the litany of laughably stupid and unbelievable excuses that Team Pac actually came out with. What they actually said were their excuses...and there were dozens even hundreds of them.

Don't act like you've all forgotten all the pinoy pretending to be phlebotomists on here talking about "blood drawn can weaken you" or all the financial analysis of why Bob's stadium is necessary.

I swear you *******s feign ignorance constantly and are just so intellectually dishonest. You will lie about where you're from, what your education/job is, basically you've all proven time and again you are willing to lie about anything if in your mind it somehow makes Pacquiao look "better."

This is why you can't debate with *******s. Manny is so important to their sense of nationalism/ethnic pride that they view him as bigger than the sport itself. Nothing he does is outrageous to them because he IS boxing to them. They are examining things from an almost religious perspective whereas most other people are being critical of the situation from an athletic entertainment perspective.

 

the fight wouldve stil been made.. how was floyd supposed to know pac's team would agree, then lie to the media and disagree last minute?

 

Does drug testing effect a fighters performance in the ring?

 

Another spinner.

You're fine with Floyd accusing him of cheating, and demanding a thing that had never been demanded before?

Ha! You don't see that Floyd put up a huge roadblock by doing what he did?

When did Manny TURN DOWN the fight?

It's only turning down in your eyes, because he didn't suddenly agree with everything that Floyd was demanding.

Manny didn't turn down the fight, he tried to negotiate.

Guess what?

Floyd's not bigger than the sport of boxing!

Who was Floyd to be demanding such things?

You're all the same.

You hold Manny responsible for the fight not taking place, on the grounds of that he didn't jump through hoops for Floyd.

It's ****ing ******ed, that you don't see Floyd's actions as also preventing the fight from having taken place.

 

I'm still having a hard time following the diehard Floyd supporters. Is Floyd one of the greatest to step in the ring? Of course he is. But, nobody should be able to deny the fear and apprehension that Mayweather displays whenever Pacquiao's name is mentioned. I've watched Floyd his whole career, and Manny is the only man to ever intimidate him. Like it or not, Floyd has a huge ego and if you think he was willing to step in the ring when he was concerned for his health then your are mistaken. Their is a reason Floyd always had apprehensions about Pacquiao even though his fans want to dream it would have been an easy night for him. Few times have I actually seen a fighter talk about being scared for his health about an upcoming possible fight, and this was one of them.

 

do any of you actually take or have taken steroids?

olympic style testing is a jke, thats from victor conte in a quote since he`s been out of prison and now on the side of the testers.

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-two

theres a very good chance floyd has used them pacman too and many many other boxers (not just champs either)

i`d happily do gear for 6 months, then train clean for a camp, the benefits will still be there.
bit of epo for endurance, masking drugs are readily available too.

wake up dudes, when someones doing superhuman feats theres usually a reason beyond genetics.

ironically despite being a coke head, id say calzaghe was one of the rare few naturals int he sport, altho i am to be honest using his physque as a gauge.. he looked natural, tbh as does furey.

david haye, hopkins, khan, blown up cruiserweights fighting at heavy.. anyone using diuretics to make the weight and blowing up 20 lbs are all likelies..
diuretics like furosemide are how to get round positive testing.

imo you shouldnt be over your fighting weight by more than 7lbs tops the day of the fight.

one thing if i was pacman and was asked to give a blood sample half an hour before the fight, i`d be fcuked, i hate needles, i feint during tests at times and if pacs the same i`d refuse cos itd hamper my performance.

you dont need to inject steroids THG which was victor contes compound was transdermal.

steroids make boxing a level playing field or sport in general.

let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

i think it was very naughty of floyd casting aspersions..

usually only idiots get caught through ignorance like when they test positive for nandrolone, which is the dumbest choice ever as it stay in your body for up to 18 months.

anyhoo just sayin...

 

Its not a roadblock unless it negatively effects the fighters performance. So please enlighten me how if Manny would have accepted the drug testing and fought Mayweather it would have hurt his performance and ruin his chances of winning.

 

It wasn't being tested everyday up to the fight idiot. You can be tested any day up to the day before the fight. You make it sound like they poke you everyday. Quit making excuses. Olympic atheletes go through the same **** so there is tons of precedence.

 

He negotiated, because he still wanted the fight.

He sued for defamation of character, but still wanted the fight.

What choices did Manny have?


1. Just agree to everything straight away?

2. Negotiate.


Both fighters have big ego's.

If it was vice versa, what would you have said?

Be honest.

If Manny and Freddie had have accused Floyd of cheating, and then demanded something that had never been demanded by anyone else, what do you think Floyd would have said?

Do you think Floyd would have instantly agreed to Manny's demands and took the test?

Ha!

He'd have phoned Ellerbe in a rage, and you and I know it.

Why did Floyd demand OSDT in the first place?

Because of what Floyd Snr said?

It didn't even make sense what he said.

He based his OPINION, on the fact that Manny started out at 105, and then ended up at 147.

It took Manny 13 years to get to that point.

Floyd's come from SFW and fought Oscar etc at 154. He's come up through 5 weight classes. So does that mean that he was on PEDS also?

 

Oh the irony!

 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...-top-rank.html

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/2...ightMayweather Agrees to Pacquiao Fight

http://www.badlefthook.com/2009/12/3...60-40-split-to

Look how scared Mayweather was when he started dialoge with TR and offered and signed contracts with Arum in forming the Pac. He must have been shaking in his boots while he reached out to TR to get the fight made.

 

If Floyd had've wanted the fight, he wouldn't have behaved in the way that he did.

It's funny how no other opponent of Manny's had demanded the same thing.

 

I'm waiting Loudon.

 

Was Manny ever on drugs?

According to you yes, on the grounds that he didn't meet Floyd's demands.

Guess what?

That's not PROOF.

The Mayweather's made complete fools of themselves in court, and had to apologise and pay $114,000 atsch