Yes Guerrero is "Taking the test" Floyd is cleaning up the sport !!!!!!!!

What are you talking about?

I said that Floyd prevented the fight from taking place due to his behaviour.

If you want to fight someone, you don't accuse him of being a cheat, belittle him by calling him a yellow rice eating Asian midget, and throw demands at him.

That's what I was referring to. I'm not taking about drugs.

I'm saying that Floyd's behaviour was a huge stumbling block in the fight taking place.

Manny was never going to agree with all of Floyd's demands. Why would he have?

But he wanted the fight, so he started to negotiate. If the fight was going to take place, it wasn't just going to be on Floyd's terms.

 

No mention of Mayweather accusing Pac of anything. Just him asking for testing and them saying its a laughing matter

Still no mention of Mayweather accusing Pac of anything. Roach ready to take the blame. Seems to me it wasn't until Pac and his team started back tracking and offering statements on how Pac gets weaken by blood testing that Mayweather started getting aggressive.

But if you have any proof of statements prior to this of Mayweather heavily accusing Pac of steroid cheating leading to Pac back tracking then I would like to seem them. And if that was the case why is Roach ready to take the blame and claim that it weakens him rather then saying Mayweather accusing him is the reason.

 

I see you've answered my questions, with a question as per normal.

Asking for a cut off, was NEGOTIATING!

They had back and forth negotiations.

 

He ran with his Dad's assumptions, and that's why he wanted testing all the way up to the fight.

 

he still never said anything bad about him. pac had no reason to change his mind other than he didnt want to fight

 

You claim this is the reason but yet its not the reasons that Pac, Roach or Arum have given. They claimed they couldn't do testing within 24 days. That was there reason.

But its acceptable to you for Pac to run away from the fight because of those things (which you made up as the reason) rather then give in to a demand (that you seem to agree since you won't argue against it) that has no effect on the fight outcome because his feelings were hurt.

That is really acceptable to you as a boxing fan? Not to mention when Mayweather said those comments was in reply to the tons of Philippinos calling him a ****** on his social media pages. Granted he was still wrong as he is a prominent figure and shouldn't lower himself to that.

You say Manny wanted the fight which I also think he did. But It was Mayweather who started the negotiations not Pac. It was Mayweather who had his contract signed first which Arum had to fly to the Philippines to get Manny to agree to the terms.

 

Arum said he was tired of Floyd and they didn't want the fight anymore. He didn't think Floyd was serious. He said they were looking at Marquez instead. However, after those comments were made, Floyd met with Arum to discuss a potential fight.

How in the hell was wanting the entire PPV revenue from what would have been the biggest grossing fight of all time, a last ditch effort to MAKE the fight? Ha!

 

This we can agree with. Then he offered himself and Pac a way to put any assumptions to rest.

 

after pac declined that gbp offered to sit down and make the split fair and square, manny's team wanted none of it and took the easier fight bradley

 

There is no point in talking about any of this anymore. One guy is still on top of the boxing world while the other guy has lost 2 of his last 3 fights any way you look at it. Koncz and Team Pac are on their hands and knees begging Floyd for a payday now. Manny's most recent claim to fame is getting KTFO and becoming a global internet joke of the week back in December. One guy is at the lowest point in his career in almost a decade while the other is still #1 or #2 on most P4P lists and turned in a dominating performance at 36 this past weekend.

 

And now Pac will never come close to making 40 mil ever again which is the most offered a fighter in the history of boxing and the most Mayweather has ever offered an opponent for a fight. Let along take part in the highest grossing fight in boxing history.

 

You do realize Floyd won't make as much as he would have for fighting a "midget" now, right? People act like Manny is the only one to lose. Mayweather will go down as the man scared for his health when Pac was mentioned, while other fighters had no problems at all getting in the ring with him.

 

No but he just collected a 200+mil contract with Showtime, has a huge legacy fight available in Canelo.

And Pac will always be questioned as a possible drug cheat by many. Who never took extra testing while Donaire can do yr round testing and Rigo can accept extra testing for his fight with Donaire no problem and then proceed to put on a boxing lesson.

 

Concrete,

Below is what you've just posted.


Manny Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, on Friday said Floyd Mayweather's camp "wants Olympic-style drug testing" for the March 13 matchup between the sports' two best boxers -- something Roach said he has "no problem" with in an interview with Elie Seckbach of FanHouse.

Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, said Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 knockouts) also would welcome such a procedure when reached Saturday in the Philippines, where he is with the seven-division world champion.

"Our reaction is, 'So what?' We know Manny doesn't take any illegal drugs or anything. And none of this is getting under Manny's skin or anything," said Koncz.

"I'm here with Manny, and to him, it's like a joke. It's a laughing matter," said Koncz. "It's something foolish anyway. Why would we be concerned? We know he doesn't do any of that s**t."

Ha! What do you mean no mention of Mayweather of accusing Pac?

Above is a quote from Koncz making a joke of Floyd Snr's accusations. atsch

The quotes that you've just used, are in direct response to Mayweather's initial demands. The reason why Floyd made the demands, is because he went along with Floyd's Snr's accusations.

The reason he was asking for testing, was because he thought he was cheating.

The above quotes came AFTER Floyd's Snr's comments.

I don't know why you've took the time to post that up.

Manny had ALREADY being accused, BEFORE Freddie made those comments.

Seriously, what the ****?

Floyd Snr had ALREADY made the accusations at that point, and Floyd had agreed with his Dad's opinion, hence why he wanted OSDT in the FIRST PLACE!

This is the order:

1. Floyd Snr opened his big mouth.

2. Floyd shared his opinion and demanded OSDT up until the day of the fight.

3. Manny and his team respond to the above, in the link/quotes that you've provided.

 

What do you mean he'd never said anything bad?

His Dad accused Manny of cheating, and Floyd agreed, hence why he was demanding the tests in the first place.

Floyd and Floyd Snr had no reason to accuse Manny of cheating.

He was accused on the basis that he'd moved up through the weights.

Well so has Floyd. Floyd started out at SFW and then fought Oscar at 154.