Yes or No: Usyk would have beat every opponent Tyson faced pre-Douglas.

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Does Usyk beat every fighter Tyson fought in his first 38?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    25 vote(s)
    30.1%

  3. All but Tokyo Buster Douglas

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    1.2%
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  1. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    At least second only to Peter ' cheeky chappie' McNeely, squire.

    Vastly underrated puglistic technician if ever there was one if you ask me....
     
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  2. JMotrain

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    Tucker is in fact underrated. He had a prime Lennox Lewis, who everyone on this forum acts like is a H2H nightmare for any HW in history, on rollerskates when they fought. This was a Tucker who was an admitted drug addict during that time. Imagine if he was actually clean and lived a Spartan lifestyle. The Tucker that Tyson fought was prime and Tucker gave him a really tough fight.
     
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  3. Serge

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    :lol: Pete is one of the few who wasn't afraid of Mike. The knees of most of Mike's opponents were shaking like a pooping dog's but Pete had no fear of him whatsoever and I still believe he would've won that fight had he not gassed.
     
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  4. Arch Stanton

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    Absolutely that, AND Tyson just got plain lucky that night, squire. I still to this day say that McNeely carried Tyson out of respect of his long lay off, and then tyson double crossed and repaid him with sucka punching




    :lol:
     
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  5. Mark Anthony

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    No way could Tyson finish Usyk in the 1st round, his chin is far better than Spinks was, Spinks wasn`t very elusive in that fight in 88 at all.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

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    Lewis was pretty poor that year, his right hands v Bruno were wild, which is why McCall sparked Lewis, Lennox reached his prime with Steward in his corner.
     
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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Usyk would 100% go undefeated and it’s not even a debate.
     
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  8. Serge

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    :lol: Yeah, I think it was probably a combination of Pete carrying Mike out of respect, Mike cracking him with that sucker punch, and Pete taking a dive.
     
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  9. slash

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    It's not like Tyson fought murderers row.
     
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  10. Arch Stanton

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    What I truly like about our observations on ALL matters here on ESB, squire. Is our ability to keep things perfectly true and rational on every single topic you can possibly think of. We NEVER bullcrap or even remotely exaggerate in any way. That's a fact!

    So, our word is true gospel, the truth. Finite in every way possible.

    Only a fool would question our wisdom...


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  11. Serge

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    Usyk loses to all the greats or top HWs from previous eras in these fantasy match ups and if he were to lose at 37-38 or older it will be cited as irrefutable proof he was never on their level or could've beaten them by these rose-tinted google wearing boxing nostalgists, dinosaur worshipping North American fossil excavating paleontologists and haters.

    Of course all the losses said unbeatable HW gods and HWs of previous eras incurred to similar sized dinosaurs will be magically erased or glossed over, let alone the ones they incurred in the mid to late 30s. His ''prime'' will last for as long as needs to be in order to discredit him, and theirs end as early as kindergarten if need be in order to preserve their greatness and immortality.

    This is why we have assembled UTV (Usyk Team Vengeance) and are coming for all the rose-tinted google wearing boxing nostalgists and haters and like my boy Max Cady said they're all ''gonna learn about loss''

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  12. Serge

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    Absolutely, squire, and I don't think anyone, even the haters, could argue otherwise. I mean every word you said there is undoubtedly true. We literally don't ever get anything wrong and that's not an exaggeration.
     
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  13. Arch Stanton

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    The truth is the truth , squire.

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  14. Serge

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    Indeed and it is our mother tongue :cool:
     
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  15. Pepsi Dioxide

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    I started making a list of everyone from Berbick to Douglas Tyson fought. The problem Usyk is going to have is he's not going to be KOing this guys quickly and not having them go into a shell like Mike had them do. That said he's still probably the favorite against all since he's a very good boxer and doesn't do drugs or come in overweight like most of these guys but I could see him having trouble along the way.

    Trevor Berbick--beats him but is probably going to get roughed up
    Bonecrusher Smith--outboxes Bonecrusher
    Pinklon Thomas--If Pinklon can get his jab going could be a tougher fight than many expect
    Tony Tucker---again a tough fight
    Tyrell Biggs---Usyk UD or KO
    Larry Holmes---Another tough fight, I don't care if Holmes is 38 Usyk isn't KOing him.
    Tony Tubbs---fast hands fat gut Tubbs probably gets beaten by a decision but Usyk has to work for it.
    Michael Spinks--another tough one
    Frank Bruno--- Usyk UD, maybe gets stunned along the way
    Carl Williams--- Usyk KO? But it could be tough if he doesn't get him out of there.
     
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