Yes or No: Usyk would have beat every opponent Tyson faced pre-Douglas.

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Does Usyk beat every fighter Tyson fought in his first 38?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    27.0%
  3. All but Tokyo Buster Douglas

    1.8%
  1. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    It's the ONLY tongue, squire.

    The actual language spoken matters not a jot. It's the profound eminence of our word.

    Our truth tongue is godly and truly universal. It's understood by every living creature to ever have lived on planet earth. Even Dinosaurs know our tongue...

    If we say things, are, they are.......
     
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  2. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I would like to offer my aide to UTV from the US, we'll keep these fools in check!
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, the wins aren't there. You have used the word "fact" incorrectly. It is your OPINION that Tucker is underrated.
     
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  4. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Not all of Tyson's 38 opponents are up for consideration.
    But from Trevor Berbick, so on.
    IMHO, Bruno (after the Berbick fight) and Marvis Frazier (before the Berbick fight) would have the best chance.
    Usyk would also beat Tucker and Smith on points.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Quoted for truth and well said, squire

    Even when we try our hardest to lie only words of truth will pass through our lips

    I think it's a British thing and especially so for those of us who were blessed to hail from the jewel in the crown of the tiny majestic isle of Great Britain known as England :deal:
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You are a very welcome addition to UTV, rorschach51

    Poop just got a whole lot more serious for the Usyk haters since you climbed on board :lol:
     
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  7. BCS8

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    I think that he does, but I also agree with the forum that some of those guys would stick around for a bit longer than they did against Tyson. Spinks for one in particular would have a much better time against Usyk (though I reckon he'd still lose) than against Tyson.
     
  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Exactly. And if you look at all these fantasy match ups with Usyk vs old time greats, they are always brining the worst version of Usyk vs the best version of his opponent. :D

    What these guys don't get is that prime Usyk will have a huge advantage in almost everything against this past great fighters.
    He won't be giving 20 reach, 15-16cm. height and huge weight advantage, and won't be 19 months older than them, and also 37,5 years old a shadow of his former self.
    Yeah he will give some advantages away, but prime Usyk, aka Gassiev, Glowaci, Huck fight, will have cardio for 24 rounds on the highest possible pace, best footwork in the history of the business, and speed equal to Kawazaki Ninja.

    And Mike Tyson would be a midget next to Usyk. He ain't going to land a thing on him, and will be gas out by the 5-6th. round. Let alone any of the Tyson opponents.

    And if you stop being a fanboy and look at all of this old time great, their technique is nowhere near top level. They hold their feet for way too long, and their guard is wide open. Also constantly lowering their hand, good luck with that against modern fighters.
     
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  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    It doesnt matter. It means nothing. Tyson would have beaten Douglas, so what? he lost anyway.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It's always that way and gets very tedious

    He's also gone through about five head trainers since turning pro which is a lot for any fighter, let alone one who's only had 22 fights

    Exactly. Prime Usyk moved around that ring like a 210lb lightweight and was so much faster of hand and foot, much more nimble, more accurate, with much faster reflexes and reaction times and we know he possesses all the intangibles required too. Hell, the 35-37 y/o version is still a freaking beast

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    He's a serious problem for everyone. I mean how many southpaw HWs are there in boxing history who possess all the attributes he does, let alone slick ones as skilled as he is?
     
  11. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Easily.
    And Tyson was a roided hype-job brand.
    Easily beaten by Holyfield and Lewis in 'superfights', fighters who are also overrated. Holyfield got stopped by a MW and Lewis got stopped twice by journeymen.
     
  12. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    That might be the understatement of the week. Spinks was a practically a statue. Good call.
     
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  13. northpaw

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    Ion know if he would've beaten Spinks..................Ion think he would've beaten the best Holmes either (neither would Tyson), although he would beat "that' Holmes Tyson fought.
     
  14. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah none of them would be much of a challenge for Usyk at his best
     
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  15. DoctorJones

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    Usyk not having to give physical advantage does not imply that he would be more dominant. Usyk arguably had an harder fight against Briedis than Joshua. According to himself Beterbiev was his toughest opponent in the amateur despite being lighter. I guess it's not silly to think that Frazier or Tyson would be tougher for Usyk than Joshua or Fury