Yes you can, Kelly!!!!

I've posted this before. It is all there to see. Watch the weigh in video. He was still 'wet' coming into the weigh in like he was out in the hall still working out. Watch his team after he gets off the scale. They celebrate like he just won the fight. I think it was THAT close. Maybe the scale they were using was a tad off because there was talk out front that he would vacate his titles on the scale.

In the interview posted earlier he talks about how hard it was to get the last three pounds off. He was running quite a bit from Wednesday on to get the weight off. Days he should have been resting, not putting in intensive work outs.

Ultimately their opponent is the guy they are in the ring with but they have many battles/obsticals before getting into the ring. If they get beat up bad enough by those opponents then their ring performance will suffer.

 

Not just about keeping it down pre camp. That last few pounds will always be killer if he doesn't starve off the extra muscle. There is a set order the body loses weight in. I don't remember specifically, but fat goes before muscle. He can get it off, but it will give the definition 'hungry' a whole new meaning for him. Can a millionaire ever be that hungry again? In the literal sense? I'd be curious to know why/how that extra was added because he has indicated in interviews before that he knows weight training for muscle is not a good thing for a fighter. His weight training had always been very specific for boxing activity. I still have to wonder if he was over looking Martinez to Bute?

 

Which seems like a clear confirmation that Pavlik most likely doesn't belong at 160 anymore... The guy is 6'2'' anyways and freaks of nature like Paul Williams are a rare kind. Pavlik needs to properly add muscle to his long frame and add other elements to his team in order to take care of what I previously mentioned in this thread.

By the way, thank you for always being a gentleman with your posts, which is going out style it seems for many on this board.

 

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Do you think he should make certain additions to his team ? I think he needs different perspectives from different views. He doesn't have to change everything but rather add to what he already has.

Don't you think he should take the time to add muscles and get himself in a position to be competitive at 168 lbs ? 160 lbs seems to be killing him now...

 

Thanks. I try, but I admit I get dragged into the mud sometimes.

I've posted before that people with an ear in Kelly's camp thought this would be his last fight at 160. They may really need to take some stock of that now. If Kelly starves off the extra muscle he might be best served to stay at 160. Martinez laid it out quite well saying that the Pavlik, Martinez, Williams trio could bring quite a bit to the MW division for some time to come. Actually losing this fight could be more financially rewarding to Pavlik in the long run that winning it would have been. We now have his rematch with Martinez. IF Kelly wins, there could be a third fight, but I think the Paul Williams fight is much more likely now. Plus people want to see Paul/Sergio rematch. Suddenly the MW division is alive again.

Sergio entered the ring at 168. I think Kelly was entering at that weight for fights like Miranda/Taylor 1. I don't remember for sure, but to me that means Sergio is a legit sized MW.

 

It's just an opinion but I think Pavlik is close to not making weight anymore...and I don't think he'll last it out to continue fighting Williams or Martinez at 160...

 

It will be very, very tough, but it can be done. Like I said, this will put the term "hungry" to the test in EVERY sense of the word.

 

It's actually something that plagues a lot of boxers who train by the basics and don't learn to improvise.

Take Calzaghe for example. Nothing basic about what he did. He adapted and improvised every time out.

You learn to hit a guy by watching his footwork and learn to avoid his jab and right cross by how he approaches you. Again his footwork.

This is all fine and dandy against ordinary opponents who don't improvise and fight in a basic up and down posture. Guys like Martinez and Hopkins and Calzaghe do not fight like this. They improvise lunging in from outside of their stance (off balance shots), they throw punches off balance even inside. They are always looking from every possible angle. This is a very different approach than what Pavlik is used to.

The first thing he needs to do is start looking at sparring without depending on his feet being set. I know it probably sounds crazy but he needs to start using improvisational tactics against sparring partners. And he needs to be in there with someone who improvises and doesn't attack the same way every time. These are crucial for him to develop.

 

Pavlik = Overated

 

Pretty much ! :deal

 

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