Yo Floyd Haters!

Yo homie! Floyd hatter checking in here.

 

how the hell did i miss threads like this!!

i guess i need to stop following wigger mcfitz around and post in the lounge too.

 

Im leaving Judah out of this since he is in both fighters resumes.

Im not looking at accomplishments because that doesnt help you in the ring. Im looking at who are the better and tougher fighters.

Id take Mosley to beat Mitchell, Baldomir and Hatton. Ill take Quintana to beat them as well. THere is no way that you could convince me that they woudnt.

 

I know that styles make fights and I think i'm a good measure of analyzing fights and seeing an advantage when I see one. I think that some fighter despite style has an advantage over the majority of fighters they fight.

The most recognizable style is a boxing style ... I think that boxers give any style trouble and I give them the edge over brawlers, power punchers, volume punchers, wild club fighters, and punching bags.

History shows that guys like Mosley has trouble against boxers ... Mosley isn't a boxer ... he's a power puncher w/ fast hands.
Stylistically he can't handle PBF ... because he doesn't jab, he has no head movement, he takes unneccessary shots, he doesn't move the shoulders at all, overall he's stiff, he bounces straight up and down and down pivot or move at angles .... do you want me to keep going?
He starts his attack coming straight in and he paws with the jab ... and he shuffles his feet while pawing ... telegraphing his combonation.
His lack of headmovent has been his downfall for not avoiding punches.

Floyd would hit SSM too much en-route to a wide UD ... Mosley is often easy to discourage too ... once he realized that he was down against Cotto -- he was winging shots and leaving himself open for counters.

 

:twisted: I told you that **** was funny!:yep I tried to get you over there. but NO, you had to have your boss in the room:rofl

 

Mosley has never beat a defensive minded quick thinking boxer ... he's always been able to overwhelm his opponents but nothing effective against guys who move good and can fight going backwards.

In addition to that Mosley can't fight going backwards and if you frustrate his attack ... he will shut down completely.

 

I would love for Mayweather to prove it in the ring. It would be better than a DLH rematch.

 

A disgrace by being 39-0 making it look easy while doing so and P4P #1 in the world not to mention being one of the richest athletes in the world if that's a disgrace then by all means he's disgraced Blacks all across the US. :rofl With that being said to bad there's not a Mexican(AKA Aztek Warrior) on the planet that can beat him in the ring.:deal :good

 

Cotto stylistically can't **** with Floyd anyday ... he's too stiff ... too tense and too compact. He's going to be easy to pot shot all 12 rounds. Cotto's a slow starter and has never had to rally back.

 

What would PBF prove if he fought a Cotto that lost to Gomez?

 

Boxers do give the most trouble to most styles, boxer/punchers that is.

When a boxer doesn't have the punch that he had at a lesser weight though, that makes them more vulnerable to pressure fighters with skill, aka Cotto, or big, hard hitting, volume throwing punchers like Margarito.

If these guys were at 130, Floyd whoops them, but this ain't 130 anymore. Floyd isn't a big fighter and he doesn't have the power to really put these guys down.

A lot of people look at the Hatton fight as a parameter to judge Floyd's power, but they're so in awe of Floyd that they don't see that Hatton's approach and overall style led to his defeat by knockout.

When you come straight in with lack of defense, and you're the smaller, arguably weaker guy, that comes in straight lines, you're going to eventually get knocked out if the guy fighting you stays on his game plan and hits and moves.

This is especially true if you don't have a jab. Hatton doesn't have a jab.

Basically, the point is, if Cotto goes in there with his hands down like Hatton did, and neglects to throw the jab, there is a chance albiet not as strong as it was against Hatton that he gets KOed too.

Cotto won't thought because he has experience, unlike Hatton.

Hatton hasn't faced what you would call a boxer in years.

Cotto has gone through, Malinaggi who has a very simliar style to Floyd, although he sometimes forgets who he is and decides to slug, Quintana, a slick, southpaw who made Paul Williams look like an amateur do to his movement, Judah, a faster harder hitting fighter than Floyd who is prone to mental mishaps, but who Cotto dominated, and then Mosley, a guy that you are entirely misjudging because while he may be inclined to throw rapid combinations defenintely has good boxing ability.

You don't beat De La Hoya without good boxing ability. True, he was outboxed by Vernon Forrest, but name a fighter aside from Mayorga that beat Vernon. Although, I would say Ike beat Vernon, but you could make the arguement that Vernon was hurt. Point being, Vernon obviously doesn't have trouble against boxers.

And Mosley lost to Wright, a guy who drew and some felt won against a much bigger Taylor, who possessed at the time one of the best jabs in boxing and was making a name for himself in those fights with Mosley. Also he happened to be much bigger and stronger than Mosley who came up from lightweight.

So, I don't understand your argument. You completely discredit Mosley as a boxer despite his record and vast amateur pedigree just to support your points about Floyd.

While it's true that Cotto hasn't seen a boxer quite on the level of Floyd, it's more true that Floyd hasn't seen a volume puncher/boxer that FINISHES his opponents off, like Cotto.

So............I'm not sure where you're getting at.......

What are you getting at?

 

He fought Cotto mostly on the backfoot except when he was in attack mode. The kid fought mostly on his toes for the majority of the fight.

You don't give Mosley anywhere near enough credit, and you might have to go slap yourself.

Yeah, go ahead and slap yourself.

atsch

 

I'm telling you guys that think Cotto is the truth and that he's doing so much more than Mayweather. This guy has been to the well too many times ... he can't keep doing that ... like George Foreman used to say ... "you can only go to the well so many times"

He's soon going to get knocked out ...

You guys act as if Floyd had been knocked down before ... you act as if Floyd has ever tasted defeat ... never ... he's never been KO'd - pro or amateur ... what makes Cotto the one to do it?

because he's undefeated ... because he beat Judah and Mosley ... Cotto isn't the only one undefeated and he wasn't the first guys to beat Judah or Mosley. Hatton has beaten Undefeated Champions and knows what it takes -- I can't say the same for Cotto.

 

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Never had to rally back? What do you call his fight with Torres and Corley?

It should be Floyd that you're concerned about whether he has it in him to rally back because I can assure you that if Floyd is off his game for a second, he will be in a dark dark place with Cotto who is very game and relentless.

And I'm sorry, but I disagree about Cotto being stiff. I think he's incredibly relaxed in the ring. He doesn't have the natural agility as Floyd, but that can't be accredited necessarily to stiffness.

Is he not relaxed in your eyes? Have you ever seen much of a change in his body language or expression?

Did you not see how he boxed against a very game and aggressive Mosley at the end of the fight and countered him productively?

I mean, why do you got hate for all these fighters?

 

Do you actually think that I think that Cotto is more tallented than Floyd?

I don't.

I'm just not delusional to the fact that a boxer that came from 130 can only go up so high before his tallent isn't enough to carry him to victory depending on the circumstances presented to him.

Do I think Cotto will win? Possibly, but I'm leaning towards Floyd thinking that he can overcome adversity and truly prove his greatness and solidify his legacy.