Do you believe that a fighter is good when they win and bad when they lose or do you rate them regardless of result? An example is many people rated Joshua very highly but all of a sudden after one loss he’s rubbish. At the same time there were people who saw flaws in Joshua even when he was winning and didn’t rate him even when he was undefeated. After all a fight is just one specific day where anything can happen. Do you rate fighters because of their skill set and attributes regardless of looking at result or is it results based?
Hell no Look at all the Mexican legends with multiple losses, or legends in general. Ali- Frazier trilogy. If every fight played out 100 times there would be at least 1 or 2 absolute shock results
Of course not. That mentality bewilders me something fierce, in regards to anything. A loosely relevant example, I'm a Kiwi but have very little interest in Cricket except this morning in NZ it is pretty much impossible to avoid any discussion about the sport for some reason. Apparently we lost a match against the team expected to win the overall competition in what was one of the most competitive games of its kind in recent history, the scores were the equal so they had to have a tie breaker round - which the result of was ALSO equal, but there had to be a winner so some special "backup rule" used to decide a winner gave the nod to the other team. I've seen/heard numerous comments deriding the NZ teams effort, despite the fact that they essentially played an equally good effort as the outright winners. They basically are pretty much equal best, give or take. What does this kind of thing say about everyone else who plays the same sport, who are worse than them?
The way most have flip flopped on Joshua is ridiculous, he's still a top 5 HW, he's just the best. A good example of someone being at there best in a loss, is Tua against Ike. Tua did everything he needed to do to be elite (and I thought he edged a draw) but he lost although I reckon people's opinions of him would've been higher afterwards
It was a great sporting event mate and the kiwis were brilliant in it. We were extremely lucky your bowling is the best in the world but we have a deep batting team. It was as good it gets for sports drama. To finish with the same batting score after exactly 50 overs is extremely rare.
This. Nobody is unbeatable and sometimes the best way to learn and improve is after taking a loss. Joshua hopefully learned a valuable lesson about not underestimating his opponent, since even before the fight took place it was well known that Ruiz is very durable and an accurate puncher. Joshua was a fool to try and force the knockout.
It depends on the nature of the result. I try not to write any fighter off after one loss, however, regardless of how terrible they looked. Everyone can have a bad night at the office.
