You are Eddie Hearn, what deal do you offer Deontay Wilder?

I think it will come down to how Wilder/Fury does to be honest, if it happens that is.

If Wilder/Fury is a success then Hearn will need to give a split and give a large percentage because Wilder will have proven he can draw in the US. At least 30% I'd say.

But if Wilder/Fury bombs like Ward/Kovalev then a flat fee or a smaller split would be reasonable.

Wilder/Fury would also decide whether it's shown on DAZN or PPV on Showtime. If Wilder becomes a PPV draw why wouldn't Hearn want Joshua/Wilder on Showtime where it makes more money. Joshua isn't a part of the DAZN deal.

Rematch clauses are usually the right of the A-side and currently that's AJ. But again if Wilder becomes a PPV draw after the Fury fight then of course he has the right to demand a rematch clause. The split on the rematches of course will be hotly debated.

Suffice to say I think Wilder/Fury was a bold move by Wilder and one that will either see him rewarded or reaffirmed as the clear B side. If it's the latter than I suspect the fight never happens.

 

Firstly it has to be a two fight deal, one in the UK and one in the US.

As for percentages and flat fees well I'd wait until Wilder Vs Fury happens and see what it does, PPV numbers, live gate, even things like internet hits.. it might work out costing more if the fight does really well but I would be confident it won't do as well as so,e are predicting.

December 1st is around 9 weeks away and they haven't got a venue, they are not promoting the fight very well in my opinion, there are apparent press tours that could impact it and Fury is seriously unpredictable

And there is still talk of Mayweather Vs Pacquiao, any negotiations, general talk and there maybe even a possible fight around the same time and that could overshadow it.

So I'd wait, see what happens and take the gamble. Let's see Wilder and Fury can produce for this one fight what Joshua produces on a regular basis.

 

Pfft, Wilder should be over the moon with 40%.
He's worth 15-20% but will never admit it.
The WBC are a disgrace for allowing Team Wilder to do what they've done for the last 3.5 years.
I'll stop short of saying I'll eat my hat but I have serious doubts over a Wilder Fury fight in 2018....

 

If Wilder wins then a rematch. However, if AJ wins, no rematch clause. If AJ wants to fight Wilder again after beating him once then fine but B sides DO NOT dictate rematches you freaking ding bats.

AJ should give Wilder around 30%. No higher than 40, 40 is too much.

 

I’d offer 30% to be generous to Wilder, that would inevitably be turned down and I’d go back and forth all the way up to 40%, which is a complete joke but I’d do it just to get the fight made. I suspect even 40% wouldn’t do it though, Wilder is completely delusional and deep down I don’t think he really wants the fight. In reality Wilder deserves around 20-25%

 

I don't remember anyone on here demanding Parker got a rematch clause. Wilder is no different. The A side dictates terms.

If Wilder v Fury does over 500k on PPV I would say things change and Wilder can then ask for a larger slice of the pie.

If Wilder v Fury bombs on PPV then Hearn should stick with the original 15 mil offer.

 

And when I say 30 percent I don’t mean a flat fee.

IF the fight does fantastic all time numbers then Wilder should get a percentage cut of fees beyond expectations. It’s easy for AJ, if the take is at a all time high just make sure the ASide gets the higher percentages of all those highs.

 

Pound 4 Pound best username on the forum.

Great thread, I think all reasonable terms have already been laid out so not much to add other than if Finkel insists on getting A side advantages I'd say **** them altogether and let Wilder deal with Finkel for ****ing up his career payday/cashout purse.

 

Flat fee or percentage? percentage, 33%

Who gets to show it in US? showtime / Dazn / another? Split broadcast if possible. It would be PPV on showtime so makes sense.

Separate splits for US/UK PPV revenue? Yes, i'd just let them take the US PPV because i'd doubt it would be as much as the UK PPV

If percentage how much is fair/feasible/likely to get the deal signed?
33%, absolutely no more than that.

Rematch clause(s) two-way for both fighters? One-way for AJ alone? AJ alone, but if it was the thing that was holding the fight up, i'd just give them it.

 

I'm not optimistic. There's no way Wilder-Fury is going to be a financial success, unless the expectation are set low.
Nobody knows Wlad in U.S.
Fury probably draw less than 20% compare to Klitschko.
Plus Wilder is neither gate seller nor ppv material.
Not hating on Wilder.
I hope Joshua Wilder happens early next year. Just being realistic.

 

Yeah he can always try to back out after the fight like Ward with Kovalev.

 

Well if it were up to me it would be a percentage split and Wilder would get 35% or 40% to try get them to agree to have it on DAZN. The DAZN or PPV argument is going to be a big one between them if Wilder does good PPV numbers vs Fury.

The split would be all in, there would be no seperate PPV money just going to Joshua because it will be on DAZN so no PPV Stateside, thats another point Finkel would kick off about. If AJ keeps UK PPV they will want to keep US PPV.

I still think Joshua and Hearn should just push for a rematch clause in their favour. For obvious safety reasons and they deserve it. They are the A side whether Wilder struggles to get that in to his head or not. 3 belts, bigger draw, bigger earner and superior resume. Wilder is the B side not the joint A side like he is claiming.

 

Cheers g, I couldn't think of an alterantive way to say 'feather fisted' so settled on fart wristed ha ha, since I have knackered both scaffoid bones.
I think it's laughable that Whyte and Parker have both made more money and done more for boxing than Wilder has in the last couple of years, all whilst he talks about 'slaves' and White Masters and 'bodies' etc. Floyd was pretty odious at times but at least he had the talent and was earning top $.
I know I come across as a Wilder hater but for me, his diva BS is beyond the pale since his resume is so poor.
Him and T Fury both need to put on a good show if they fight, Wilder and Fury do do a lot of standing and looking during fights though, I hope to God it's not a stinker. There were many rounds in both the Wlad and Ortiz fights that were almost farcical due to the lack of action/engagement.
Please prove me wrong lads, for the sake of boxing.