You are Eddie Hearn, what deal do you offer Deontay Wilder?

Nothing for now. Joshua isn't ready and Wilder isn't available. Considering Wilder-Fury are going to potentially fight in Los Angeles Hearn should focus on getting Joshua a fight in America in the near future in order for more of the common American public to be aware of his existence, since while boxing fans like myself are aware of Joshua most of the American public aren't. A domestic fight with Whyte followed up with a fight with Miller in New York or Vegas would be great in building a clash between Wilder-Joshua in 2020 assuming they can both keep winning.

 

Hearn is deliberately playing down the size of the fight. First he said it was worth 50 million, and now he's slightly backtracked. Barry is on video saying it's worth 70 million so according to him, a 15 million offer to Wilder is just over 20%. Shocking offer.

Everyone in boxing knows it's worth more than 70 million. Why doesn't Eddie just offer 33% then? Because he is talking out his arse.

 

If its a 70 million event and you are giving Joshua and Wilder all of it then whose paying everybody else?

 

What do you mean? Matchroom will take their 10% for example off of AJ's purse etc.

You do know that's how it works, right? Nice try though. You failed miserably.

 

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This thread makes no sense until after Wilder/Fury. We not only can't know who will win, but how Wilder looks even if he does win, or how the fight does financially.

But if it happens, it's going to be on *some* percentage basis. Big fights don't get made via flat fee.

 

Wilder is not a PPV draw so how could a deal be made to have it on PPV before he fights Fury ? Until that fight happens no REAL points will be addressed or agreed on.

No SERIOUS negotiations will take place bc team WILDER wont let that happen anyway ,we know this bc Finkel doesn't even want to meet and discuss it.

Finkel has carefully spanned out 2019 bc a December fight even if it happens will push a rematch with Tyson to at least May of next year and then a possible Breazeale mando IF hes still champion and will continue to wait until Joshua has fights already in place and call him a coward? lol

What offer would I HAD made ,better yet Hearn currently ? I would give Wilder 30% and half of U.S revenue of whatever they put it on and a rematch claus where if Wilder wins he gets 55% with ALL U.S revenue and if he loses he gets 35% with still half U.S revenue to put a full stop to the crying and make double the money seeing Wilder lose TWICE, the second fight in the U.S . ( Hearn had a rematch terms in the U.S IF Widler won with 50% ? lol...)

Me not being Hearn I would have gave wilder WAY more then hes worth ( Wilder was offered OVER 7 times what hes generated ) just bc of my character to see him get KTFO just cause and shut him up even if its taking money out of Joshua ...I WOULD take it out of my split...lol

 

$100 gift card to KFC.

 

EVERYBODY in boxing with any intelligence knows the fight THIS year cannot be gaged and certainly closer to 50 million then 100 million months ago.

Finkels OWN numbers stated the fight is 50 million in a U.K fight ( where it takes place) ...Hearn went off of those numbers which 15 million translates into 25% of a 50 million fight in 2018. add in the 50% in rematch should Wilder win which is a 100 million dollar fight HAD it took place.........end of!

 

40/60

This fight needs to be made in April considering that both are chinny and Wilder is also injury prone. Anything could happen if Wilder has to beat Brezeale in the spring and Joshua has to beat Whyte.

The other scenario, which I fear, is that Hearn might simply avoid the fight and take lower risk opponents indefinitely.

 

I don't get the big hold up over a one way or two way rematch clause, if one party doesn't want to honor the agreement for a rematch they surely could just drop the belt/belts anyway? I think a two way rematch clause would probably favor Joshua anyway, if he defeated Wilder and didn't want to honor the rematch clause couldn't he just drop the WBC belt? It would leave Wilder in a really awkward position and AJ's reputation would be barely dented given the power he already has. Or am I missing something and the legality of a rematch clause is a lot more watertight than I imagine?

If Wilder loses the Fury fight he's in no mans land, Hearn could offer him whatever deal he wanted and Wilder would have to like it or lump it. Let's say Fury beats Wilder and then Hearn offers Wilder worse terms than the one he offered him last time, what's Wilder going to do? He's lost his negotiating power. If Joshua or Hearn were actually looking to avoid Wilder then the cynic in me says they could wait for Fury to beat him and then offer Wilder an extremely poor deal knowing that he will turn it down. That they apparently want to get the deal tied up now indicates that they probably do want to make the fight but they want to do it on their terms before Wilder can beat Fury and increase his negotiating power.

So to sum up, if I was Eddie Hearn and Wilder loses in December, I would offer him peanuts and when Wilder turns it down I would say "Ah well, Fury beat him anyway".

If Wilder defeats Fury, it's only fair that Wilder gets a decent slice of the pie, so maybe a 60/40 split in favor of Joshua.

 

I think 67/33 is a fair split.

If Fury Wilder does big numbers then that changes it.

 

I just don't see how Tyson gets in the ring with Wilder in 2018 though.

Eating your greens and huffing and puffing with Pianetta for 12 rounds doesn't prepare you for a fight against Wilder. It just doesn't and Fury knows this. FFS it's actually properly dangerous up at Heavy if you're not prepared esp. with Wilder.

Perhaps this is the reason he split with Peter? I can't see Peter going along with this 'plan'.

I never thought T Fury was actually delusional when it came to boxing, he knows his onions IMO. Fury will need every ounce of athleticism he's ever shown and maybe more to dance away from Wilder for 12/time him and hurt or stop him.

FFS, imagine Fury giving it the WWE BS he did against Cunningham and shipping an ATG right hand? It'd be a career ender. Once you're hit, and even before, when you're pumped up, you're not in a position to properly assess the situation. He could get up groggy and get utterly sparked a la Pricey. Wilder is a great finisher and has a nasty streak too.

 

I'd deal at 40 too.

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A big bag of skunk weed.

But seriously, Wilder won’t sign for along while. He above all else LOVEs being a trinket holder. Not blaming him just saying deep down above all he does not want to loose his trinket. That’s what drove poor blizzy insane and send him into the looney bin.