You are Eddie Hearn, what deal do you offer Deontay Wilder?

I agree with this. April ... it's a 'bird in the hand' scenario.

From a Joshua POV ... both Wilder and Fury have a window of opportunity open now which could close at at time due to anything from hand injuries to drug busts. And if not something like that - as you said ... any of the three could cop a loss to an under-dog ... which would really take the wind out of a mega fight.

If Wilder-Fury goes ahead and the result is conclusive. It's simplistic but clear IMO ... the winner of Wilder-Fury fights AJ in April ... which is the perfect set-up, and they'd be lucky to come up with anything much better.

Therefore ... a modest loss in what's negotiated for April outweighs the loss that would occur should something go wrong with a plan to post-pone the fight into the future.

 

$15m. $20m if he wins and then 50/50 in a rematch. That's as is.

If he beats Fury, you add $5m to the starting point, maybe a bit more. Ideally Fury beats Wilder and we get an even bigger fight. I don't think Joshua v Wilder will be competitive, hopefully I'm wrong and it's an absolute classic though.

 

Well if i was Joshua’s promoter. I’d be doing exactly what Hearn is doing. Shortchanging Wilder with flat fees and also making him agree to the Joshua fight before he fights Fury, so it puts extra pressure on him and if Wilder wins and his commercial value goes up, he won’t be able to re-negotiate as he’ll be locked into a contract.

I would also put the fight on DAZN, unless Showtime were offering a massive gurantee if PPB Numbers flopped.

Now if i was Wilder’s Promoter, i would be demanding 40% and making sure the fight was on Showtime PPV and Wilder getting the large portion of American PPV.

 

I got a lot to say about this. So strap in.

Alot is going to depend on the success of Wilder-Fury. If Wilder can sell 400k-500K in ppv in the USA he should be given at least 45% of the split. I imagine it will be priced at like 75 bucks. That's doing what AJ does in the UK at half the buys. If Wilder-Fury does that many here AJ vs Wilder has to be in America.

If I'm Wilder's team and I do that many buys for Wilder-Fury I don't even hesitate to tell AJ go ahead and fight Whyte in Apirl. The first Wilder-AJ fight is going be in America. If Wilder-Fury does at least 400K then AJ-Wilder will do close to a million buys here plus UK ppv. But it has to be the first one because it will capture America's imagination. 2 good looking charismatic huge KO artists. If you want to maximize the money you have to do it here. The UK will show out for a rematch more then America would. And believe with the love Wilder was shown in Belfast he will come to the UK to fight AJ.

But to truly maximize the fight AJ needs to get his ass over here and fight. It's amazes me he hasn't fought here yet. That's completely dropping the ball to me. AJ would crossover easier than Wilder here.

Here would be my plan to maximize everything (assuming Wilder beats Fury).

1.) AJ fights Whyte in April (he is already committed to Wembly).

2.) DW takes the Brezeale fight around the same time, it's his mandatory, decent fight but not threatening. Probably disposes of him quicker than AJ. But I put it on Fox national TV so everyone gets a look at DW. PBC signed new deal with thrm. Makes sense for everyone...gives him a wider audience for future showtime PPVs.

3.) AJ fights Big Baby Miller in the USA. Miller will provide rounds but ultimately not threatening to AJ. But most importantly he will sell the fight to American fans because he can talk. AJ gets his American introduction. Plus big baby will probably be his madatory by then.

4.) DW could take another fight but he could just wait AJ out honestly. Brezeale his Mando would be out of the way. Maybe take like a Jennings or Kownacki but doesn't have to.

5.) They fight end of 2019 beginning of 2020 in America. It will be in Vegas but with this route I think they could fill Cowboys stadium maybe. If they can get to mainstream America. Then rematch in the UK. Then if each wins one maybe somewhere in Africa. (Even though I think the Nigerian Abaja is perfect for AJ in Nigeria).

 

15% and Billy Joe Saunders Nandos card

 

50/50 split is fair.. how can it not be. AJ is the A side so of course he will have a rematch clause.. but on the financials Hearn should look at 50/50. There will be enough money in the fight to do that, the fans want to see the fight so they should be considered in do whatever you have to do to make the fight.

 

Wilder should be over the moon with 40% and a rematch clause in America - only if he loses on points.

That’s more than fair in my opinion. He shouldn’t get KO’d and be entitled to a rematch and he gets a straight 40% of tickets, UK and US PPV.

 

I'd offer him three mangoes and a box of carrots.

 

65/35 for april
60/40 for end of 2019
50/50 for 2020

To suit the decline of wilder and the development of joshua.

 

Eddies been fair with the flat fee imo. Wilders never made money like that. Same sort of deal may weather was handing out and boys we,re queing up to fight him. Still can't wrap my head round why wilders not took the deal on offer tbh or pushed another few million out of it then took it.

Joshua's a massive name. They,ve hardly put a foot wrong with him from the onset. Meanwhile wilder and his teams made every mistake going. If I was Eddie and joshua I,d just move on...there's other opponents out there. For wilder its a great opportunity to take them belts off him. Become a massive name and get a money spinning rematch to boot. Fury fight seems a farce. Fury only half fit...still not sure if its on or off. Probably won't be a financial success. What else is there. The only real money coming out of heavyweight boxing atm is coming from matchroom.

 

Give him a bag of ganja, and an evening with Barry hearn.

 

Wilder at one point obviously thought the same as he agreed to the flat fee. But for whatever reason he changed his mind and backed out at the last minute. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows the lack of venue and date wasn't the reason he backed out as he's signed a contract to fight Fury without a venue and date and the idea that it had to be in 2018 as well was a BS reason as it's not like he had the WBC forcing him to defend his mandatory which seems to have been forgotten.

If this fight has any hope of being made Hearn will need to offer a split, it might not be a big split but it's clear a flat fee isn't going to cut it.

Hearn I think will offer a sweetened deal prior to Wilder/Fury, maybe $20 mill flat fee or a 30-33% split in the hope that if Wilder/Fury somehow does well that he can secure Wilder contractually for a lower payday and hope Wilder not knowing if Wilder/Fury will do well will accept in case it bombs.

 

Fiddy percent