You are Eddie Hearn, what deal do you offer Deontay Wilder?

why?

 

To devote him a poem to melt his poetic heart...

 

Having made that argument, I now fully admit that I could wind up overestimating what Wilder gets. MayPac was apparently 60/40 and Canelo/GGG I was apparently 70/30. Both are reasonable comps to this fight, and you could certainly argue both financial "B" sides were more deserving on resume of a higher percentage than Wilder, although some other factors weren't present. And to be weighed against; the 50/50 purse in the HW comp Wlad Haye. So, I guess I could see it going down any number of ways. Fun to argue about, though.

 

Yeah, that would be savvy on Hearns part and worth consideration for team Wilder. Unfortunately, there is definitely a threat Wilder fury will bomb or at least dissappoint.

 

I suspect you are right. They still haven't announced the fight and if it happens in early Dec they don't have much time to promote it. Usually big PPV's are built slowly over time to build interest, this will be a last minute promotional push.

Wilder and Fury are not PPV fighters in their own respective markets this is a big gamble. The Mayweather/Pac fight will likely see it relegated to a 2nd tier attraction if it happens in Dec.

The fight being on the west coast makes the time difference even worse for Brit fans which could dampen UK PPV numbers.

This PPV is a huge gamble if it happens. If it flops Wilder will get a flat fee again and Hearn will use the failed PPV as proof the fight needs to be in the UK and that Wilder doesn't deserve a split.

 

Agree. If I was hearn tho I would just leave it at about 15 million. Wilders not worth a percentage. His careers been managed extremely badly. A champion that's spent most of his career being mocked...tbh he's deserved a lot of it. His level of competitions been laughable. He's got one pretty decent win. That could earn him 15 million and a massive opportunity. You,d be laughing all the way to the bank with that.

With a percentage your earning off the back of Joshua's huge popularity. That he's deserved tbh. Been taking on big challenges. Cv looks solid. Expertly publicised. The main difference with this fight and may weather v pacman was pacman could make massive money elsewhere. He was also hugely popular. He deserved his percentage. Wilder on the otherhand doesn't. I think Eddie will do what your saying. Try to sign him up before fury because he's greedy to make his own percentage. I wouldn't if I was Eddie tho...i,d give the flat fee. Maybe go up to 18 million tops. If he doesn't take it move on. Wilder will come back before long. Joshua has other options. Get wilder signed on the flat fee. Then do what he does best....sell the life out the fight.

Or give it to finkel take the fifty mill and watch finkel struggle to sell it nearly as good.

 

Wilder is a flat fee kind of opponent.

 

Whatever deal you offer, you have to first call out Wilder in the ring, in front of everyone and after one of Wilders fights. Wilder will have to accept after being called out in front of his fans.

 

If it does 300k PPV's in the US Wilder would make more than AJ selling a million in the UK...I find it amazing how some of you want to comment on boxing business but simply refuse to do any research to educate yourself on it. With all due respect...

 

AJ isn't a PPV draw in the US either...so moot point. If you are referring to the million or so $25 dollar buys in the UK, that's cool but that money could be made in 250k PPV buys in the US. The fighters (as it pertains to the US market, where the real money is to be made) aren't the "draw", the event is the draw. By participating in the event, both fighters have an opportunity to become an international draw based on what happens, but neither are PPV draws at this point. Like I said in another thread, Canelo vs JCC jr gated more money than AJ vs Parker, even though AJ sold 80k tickets and whatever. I don't discount his drawing power, he is a regional draw and that's important, but you act as if he's arrived or is at the mountain top...man he's not even scratched the surface as to what he could do, Wilder either for that matter. This is a weird take man, no disrespect intended.

 

With all due respect can you run some basic numbers to back up that statement and I'll concede. You think 1 million PPV's is the extent of it for Joshua in UK?

 

Depends on the price of the PPV for Wilder/Fury

Canelo/Golovkin was $85.00 so x 300K = $25.5 mill

Joshua £19.95 x 1 mill = £19.95 mill or $26.1 mill at current exchange rate.

So it would need to be more than the Canelo/Golovkin PPV price for your statement to be true. Plus if you include the live gate Joshua draws more with 80K than 21K at the Staples center.

 

Well If I ran some numbers too:

Klitckko - Joshua gate did 1.5 Million buys

at 20.95 pounds

Showtime PPV HD cost is 99.95 dollars? Which is like 76.29 Pounds

Therefore, for Wilder to keep up he would need to get 76.29 divided by 20.95 = 3.64 less buys than Joshua

if Joshua - Wilder did 1.5 millions buys in UK
USA would need to be 1.5 million / 3.64 = 412, 000 PPVs buys.

And the above posters estimate was 300,000 PPV buys

So he's only about 412,000 - 300, 000 = 112, 000 US PPV buys short

@Reppin501

 

if he beats fury then offer him 50/50 split in uk and put khan vs brook on undercard as co-main event

 

You are correct, I was confused with 29.95 Euros - I've updated the figures to reflect this change.