**You be the judge: JCC v Meldrick Taylor I**

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  1. Orishaman

    Orishaman I tell it like it is.... Full Member

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  2. GlassyEyes

    GlassyEyes Ya know what im sayin? Full Member

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    Whats the question at hand?

    Did Chavez win the fight? No.

    Did Taylor lose the fight? Yes.




    Bull**** stoppage.
     
  3. KMSTAR

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    Worst stoppage in the history of boxing; I don't care what Steele says today. If he was so concerned, he should have stopped it sooner. Taylor the first man to beat Chavez.
     
  4. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Richard Steele won this fight
     
  5. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Taylor totally schooled JCC, and that´s coming from a Chavez-fan, but it was a pure bull****-stoppage, it were only 3 seconds to go or so, and even if Julio would have ran to Taylor, the fight would be over... btw, the official scorecards were also criminal, a real joke... :-( sad day for boxing IMO...
     
  6. BIGTIMETIMMY

    BIGTIMETIMMY ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    genuis
     
  7. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Horrible stoppage, but the other lesson was that you match relatively green prospects with prime fighters at your own risk. Even if Meldrick had won, he'd still have had years beaten off of his career that night. Vargas's people didn't learn the lesson. Reid's people didn't learn it. Cintron's people didn't learn it, although luckily he was more spooked than damaged.
     
  8. jimmy1991

    jimmy1991 Active Member Full Member

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    the ref was right
    he didnt no what time was left
    he asked taylor a quistion an taylor didnt answer
    its just a bumer it happened at the time it did
     
  9. MotorCityCobra

    MotorCityCobra Member Full Member

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    He did not school JCC at all. He was winning the fight by landing more punches, but he didn't school him like Whitaker did. JCC was landing the far harder and more damaging blows and was never knocked off his ghameplan. Taylor was tough and had rapid handspeed, which is why he was able to outland and rack up the points, but he was not schooling him. I had it probably 8-3 going into the last round.

    Although I do agree that the stoppage was BS and Taylor would've won by a score on my card of about 115-112 with the KD in the last round.
     
  10. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    It was actually a schooling. When did you see a more dominant fight of a contender in the last 15 years (against a great fighter like JCC, who was in his prime)?


    * It was an unification fight, but JCC was the real champion by the experts and by the Ring Magazine for example...
     
  11. MotorCityCobra

    MotorCityCobra Member Full Member

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    It was neither a schooling nor a domination. And here ya go, Whitaker dominated a champion in Ramirez and shut him out. Whitaker dominated Chavez worse than Taylor did easily, because he actually landed at will while not getting hit, unlike Taylor.

    Calzaghe dominated Lacy FAR worse. I could go on and on, what are you trying to do, dig yourself into a bigger whole?

    Re-watch the fight, Taylor got hit FAR too much and FAR too hard for that fight to have been considered a schooling, especially being as he never even bothered Chavez with his punches.
     
  12. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    You could score the fight 10-1, if you give the closer rounds Taylor, I had it 8-3. The harder punches? WTF are you talking about? It´s normal that JCC landed the harder punches, he was the much harder puncher, Taylor threw way more powerpunches, you didn´t see the statistics, right? The Lacy- Calzaghe- fight is an example, I know, the Whitaker- fight not, Pernell ran too much, Julio was the aggressor, it was closer than the Taylor- fight...
     
  13. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chavez had two of the biggest gifts in history right? This one and his fight with Sweet Pea?
     
  14. MotorCityCobra

    MotorCityCobra Member Full Member

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    Pernell did not run at all, watch the fight. You are fast losing credibility here. It seems to me as if you have simply not watched these fights in a very long time, and have made them up in your mind as you think they should've gone to win this argument.

    Bottom line, Taylor was the one taking the punishment, he never knocked Chavez off his gameplan, and his punches didn't hurt Chavez. He simply had faster hands, thus landed more.

    Whitaker landed his shots, and made Chavez miss, and even had him hurt and backing up in the later rounds. He clearly fought a better fight and gave Chavez more of a lesson than Taylor did.

    Anyways, the other Whitaker fights I mentioned as well, Mayweather/Corrales is another. Seriously, there have been many.
     
  15. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i completely agree. this fight was a joke. don king's money was the real winner and then chavez ran from taylor for years until he had obvious signs of brain damage...then suddenly found the courage for a rematch. steele MAY have thought what he was doing was right. it wasn't. chavez lost the fight 9-2 going into the 12th, no doubt. to be honest, i've never been impressed with chavez and this fight and his cowardice in not admitting he lost planting the seed for my longstanding hatred of the man.