**You be the judge: JCC v Meldrick Taylor I**

"Meldrick did nothing but throw shoe-shine punches at him."

yes, but they LANDED

 

My point is, Meldrick was dishing out shoe-shine punches while getting hard shots in return, while Whitaker was making JCC look straight stupid and landing his shots without taking them in return. Whitaker had the better performance. Took little punishment while even hurting JCC, while Taylor did no such thing while taking a subtle but very effective beating.

 

Yeah, of course, important is how you define the word "domination". IMO, when a 23 years old kid faces a 68-0-0 fighter for a unification-bout for the WBA, and the WBC- World Titles, and won almost every round, it´s a domination...

 

Just quote the post.

I know this, that is why he was winning the fight on points, but he was not dominating. He was the one taking the beating, he was winning because he had quicker hands. And it showed in the end.

 

Taylor landed more, but Chavez damaged him so incredibly. After watching that battle I always come away with the impression that Taylor won the boxing match, but Chavez won the fight.

Julio effectively beat him up badly. Yet still, going by the boxing rules we know and love, Meldrick Taylor was comfortably ahead.

The Steele stoppage is an interesting theoretical problem -- what if, in your judgment as a referee, the exact moment to stop a fight is five, three, or even one second before it ends? Does it matter who is ahead? What if it's not mere seconds, but a minute? A round? If you decide to let the time left dictate your actions, are you in fact cheating the other fighter, who has earned a stoppage?

I don't have the answers, but I feel Steele didn't mean any foul play. The fight is what it is. The fact that Taylor officially lost the fight doesn't diiminish his incredible performance one bit in my eyes, and I also feel Chavez' methodical and clinical brutality should not suffer because of the controversy either. He fought a great fight against a brilliant challenger.

Cherish the fight and let the controversy be. The verdict won't be changed anytime soon.

 

Certainly did not win almost every round. I had it 8-3, some had it 7-4, etc. Also, getting KO'd kinda stops it from being a domination.

And it wasn't some lucky punch KO, it came after JCC had beaten him up the entire fight and had him nearly out on his feet in the 12th round even before he caught him with the fight-ending blow.

 

Fantastic post.

 

I would like to see, how you come to the 7-4 scorecard. 8-3 is the best I could give JC, Lederman or other experts had it I think something like 10-1 or so...

 

why'd he stop it so quickly? make him walk towards him at least or something c'mon this was for the world title. the guy got up quickly and didn't do a dance or stumble. steele knew the round was about over whether he knew there were 3 seconds or not.

 

Oh, sorry, you wrote 8-3...

 

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

I felt is was the right stoppage Steele asked Meldrick the question twice and he didn't get an answer I blame Lou Duva why he'd jump on the ring apron it distracted Taylor and telling him he needed the last round you could see how drained he was and he was ahead he didn't need to win the last round.

 

1. Chavez rendered Taylor unfit to continue within the 12 round limit....how much time remained or who was percieved to be ahead on the cards doesn't matter.

2. Taylor chose to stand toe to toe with Chavez.

3. Taylor didn't respond to Steele's question.

4. Instead of showboating in the 12th round, Taylor should have been staying away from Chavez.

5. The referee isn't the timekeeper.

6. The knockdown occured with about 20 seconds remaining in the round.

7. The fight was closer than many people believe.

8. The timekeeper doesn't always sound the bell at exactly 3 minutes....sometimes rounds go as long as 30 seconds extra.

9. If anyone cares to place blame, they can blame Lou Duva for getting up on the ring apron and possibly distracting an already stunned Taylor.

10. If Steele had given Taylor the benefit of the doubt(and no one gives you anything in this business), it would have been Chavez who was robbed of a hard earned victory.

11. Many people seem to assume that the right hand that Chavez landed was the shot that started the whole controversy, and that it was a lucky shot....not even close to accurate. Chavez knew what he was doing and might have ended the affair sooner if he'd tried.

12. Taking into consideration the effect that the beating had on Taylor, the fight probably should have been stopped sooner....most probably by Taylor's corner or the ringside physician.

13. Chavez won the rematch without controversy.

14. People seem to be influenced by the seemingly biased HBO broadcast, which had Taylor winning the first 9 rounds in one-sided fashion, and at one point even suggested that Chavez was going to be stopped.

15. Taylor was holding himself up with both arms on the ropes as Steele was trying to determine wether he was fit to continue....so Steele actually could have continued counting.

It's a shame that Taylor put forth such an effort and didn't get the win that he came so close to earning, but Chavez stopped him fair and square.

 

Taylor was the best prospect of a generation of fighters in my view, but whether he was well ahead or not, Chavez knocked years out of him that night.

 

Which part was funny?