You can get 2/1 on Vargas to KO the Problem....

Alot like Margocheato Concrete minus the plaster cast wraps.

 

Vitali, Wlad, Lemiuex, Danny Jacobs, Lewis, Povetkin (though only a handful of people considered him unbeatable pre Wlad)

 

Alot of factors...

Are we giving rds to Vargas on activity/pressure alone, cuz Broner has only ever lost on unrelenting pressure.

But I think ABs defense and parrying will probably make the early rds tight before he gets the timing down and can sit down on his counters.

Once he starts controlling the geography he's got more than enough power to stop Vargas and in terms of power, Vargas and AB are really on a similar level.
I just hope the judges don't over reward either for thier strengths when the other actually had the best of a Rd.

 

Gonna be hard to knockout a man whose head is half his weight

 

Joe Louis rebuilt himself and dominated after being destroyed by the Black Uhlan of the Rhine.

Vic Darchinyan would be a great example. His train was barrelling along, with paramedics bearing stretchers and oxygen masks in his wake, until it slammed into the left hook of a generally unfancied Nonito Donaire (whose brother had already been victimized by Vic) — after that defeat, he moved up and outboxed Christian Mijares, a guy who was being mentioned in P4P terms, before knocking him out in what was a considerable upset at the time. He also gave Donaire a much rougher ride in their eventual rematch.

Some would argue for Kostya Tszyu, and there's at least a case to be made. Certainly, he changed quite a bit after Vince Phillips worked him over.

A very good case can be made for Tommy Hearns, a man who defined that kind of aura @Dagnaldinho describes. After Leonard snatched his 0 in their welterweight showdown, he went on to some mighty fine accomplishments. Should have gotten the rematch decision over Leonard, too.

If we limit discussion to his post-exile career, we could say that Muhammad Ali came back stronger and savvier after his cherry was popped in defeats to Frazier and Norton.

Tommy Morrison got better after being savagely removed from his senses by the merciless hands of Ray Mercer, culminating in the disciplined twelve-round defusing of George Foreman which won him a world title (albeit a lightly regarded one at the time). Granted, the lunacy of his life ensured that the progress would be short-lived, but he's still a good example of an irresistible force on the rise who ran into an immovable object and improved for the ass-kicking.

Diego Corrales came back pretty strong after Mayweather one-sidedly battered him, collecting some defining wins over Casa and Castillo.


And these are just easy ones right off the top of the head. All of them had much more legitimate auras as undefeated fighters than AB, who had looked distinctly fallible on several occasions prior to his meeting with Maidana.

 

Heck, did Ray Robinson get better after his defeat to the Human Truck, Joltin' Jake? Yes, I believe he did.

 

Agreed, I can really imagine Vargas giving Broner a prolonged, nasty beating.

 

I noticed not one of them was within the last 10 - 15 years.

 

Broner doesn't get stopped by Vargas, maidana couldn't do it and hes far more ferocious

 

They're examples of varying vintage from throughout the last hundred years. Darchinyan and Corrales were both 21st century examples. But I'm not sure why it should matter how recent they are, unless you're making the point that the sport is becoming diluted and fighters are getting mentally weaker on average, which I expect I'd be quite willing to concede.

 

Can't imagine a high work rate guy drubbing a shelled up Broner to the body and the head for long periods of time culminating in an eventual TKO? I can, especially looking at Broner's recent life issues, I can't imagine he's going to be in his optimal fighting condition.

 

Id say Floyd certainly made losing more a matter in the sport. Fighters these days tend to care way to much about the magical 0. Some certainly get broken mentally once that 0 goes, Broner a perfect example.

 

That's a fair observation. Funny thing is, Floyd at times seems irked by the culture of entitlement and stubborn risk mitigation he helped to foster. I think, the way he sees it, he paid his dues before he began playing the system, while a lot of the guys who've followed him want the benefits before they've done much in the way of significant work. It's amusing to see him express frustration with a climate he played a hand in creating, but at the same time you can see his point.

You'd hope that the phase will pass.

 

He's one of those guys you wouldn't be surprised to see dead within a few years, none the less dropping a fight with a terrible performance.

 

Broner had a couple of bad performances far before he lost his 0 officially. In those cases the judges beat his opponent for him though.