You can NOT be P4P if you have only fought in 1 weight class

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  1. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    These fictional rankings were made up because boxers like Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong were beating guys at different weights (when weights were real) and it was a "What if?" he was a heavyweight or a lightweight on how they would do in that division. This means that Ward for instance should not be a P4P until he moves up in weight.
     
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  2. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    how about imagining mike tyson fighting in welterweight???

    have you ever thought about that???

    your logic reeks of naivety...
     
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  3. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    What a stupid thread. So Wlad, Kovalev, GGG are not p4p worthy either I guess? So much fail :patsch
     
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  4. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dumb thread

    there can be 50lb difference in some HW fights
     
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  5. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    Heavyweight is heavyweight !! they will obviously beat all the smaller guys. its not for heavyweights really.
     
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  6. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    nope:rasta
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    P4P means talent regardless of weight class.

    For instance if everyone weighed the same, who would be the best fighter.
     
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  8. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    But Vlads main attribute is size and reach over his opponent so if if you take this away and make him the same size as another fighter?
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That's why they're mythical rankings, we just don't know.

    You can't strip attributes though, of you take away wlad's reach you would have to take away khans speed, Floyds timing, Golovkins power etc
     
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  10. Damien

    Damien Member Full Member

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    beat me too it.

    The best fighters in the world regardless of which weight they compete.
     
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  11. Damien

    Damien Member Full Member

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    That's where it gets silly trying to mess with their attributes so lets say Pac man could fight Wilder.
    Who is the better fighter ? Pac so p4p he ranks higher

    The best fighters in boxing regardless of weight.

    not who would win ali or duran
     
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  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    What if said division was a murderes row, and said fighter beat the weakest titleholer then quickly got the hell out the frying pan? :think
     
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  13. Damien

    Damien Member Full Member

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    then said fighter would be a belt holder but not on anyones p4p list?
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That logic is absolutely idiotic.

    In fact, it isn't even logic at all. It isn't even a logical fallacy. It's just nonsense.
     
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  15. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Indeed. It indicates, basically, a complete misunderstanding of the concept of "pound for pound.":patsch
     
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