You can't convince me Louis beats Tyson

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Its a styles thing.

    Anybody silly enough to come straight at Louis, is going to get their brains scrambled coming in.

    When two big punchers collide, I tend to favour the one who fights on the back foot, all else being equal.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I don't think it would be a one-sided fight. People often mistake Louis' efficiency for being a lack of speed. He was an efficient, deliberate fighting machine with a lot of subtle movement that was a hair trigger away from unleashing sublime brutality.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I favor the one who starts faster and has better movement, better combination punching, and a sturdier chin.
     
  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Me too. Louis is the greatest but he isn't winning here.
     
  6. janitor

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    I guess Duran beat Hearns prety easily then!
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Hope you're just kidding around. Duran had a fraction of Hearns'power and Hearns was a very fast starter. Also much different height and reach dynamic.
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Louis timing Tyson would be of little consequence. I think Louis is an ATG puncher but I'd be damned if his punches were more powerful than Ruddock's left which he smashed Tyson with a lot, accomplishing little. Tyson had a great chin.

    The only way to beat Tyson is to be able to move consistently, firing off accurate, rapid combos from the outisde and clinch him when he gets close, until he inevitably tires. That is the only way.

    It took a master boxer like Holyfield years to study and break down his style effectively. Years. Louis shouldn't be favored.
     
  9. uncletermite

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    You don't really think hes kidding do you? Were talking janitor here... :lol:
     
  10. janitor

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    I am kidding around, but in a way that underlines my point.

    Puncher on puncher matches; inherently favour the guy who fights on the back foot, especially if he knows what he is doing.

    A guy like Louis will create a multi layered, in depth killing field that you have to walk through to get to him, and he will find ways to keep you in an unfavourable part of this killing field. The more aggressively you try to close the distance on him, the more deadly his combinations will become.

    Louis tried all kinds if subterfuge, to make his opponents take a few steps towards him, so that he could clock them. If you gave him an opponent who was going to try to press the attack straight at him, it would give him a lot of options.

    When Tyson closes the distance, he has one last problem. Louis is much better on the inside, just as Holyfield was, and this gives him an effective last line of defence.
     
  11. uncletermite

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    Tyson was the best inside fighter ever when he stayed there..Louis looked good against robots who basically let him pause and pick where he was going to hit you while they leaned on him...Louis wouldn't know what hit him in that type of fight,mainly because Tyson was not a stand still robot,and punches from underneath lanky like Louis types.
     
  12. janitor

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    Tyson didn't know what the inside looked like.

    When somebody fought him on the inside, he had no answer for it.
     
  13. uncletermite

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    :lol:
     
  14. janitor

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    Watch the Holyfield fights, then come back.
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    The opening line “you can’t convince me” is significant.

    My advice is not to try to convince people in a thread like this.

    Plant new ideas in their head, and show them why you think the way you think.

    You might ultimately bring them round to your position, but if you don’t, you will at least challenge their ideas.