You can't convince me Louis beats Tyson

Boxing, like other sports, has seen evolution between eras. Although, some would argue we may be seeing a devolution in overall skills.

Louis would have been a big cruiserweight/small heavyweight in Tyson's era. He had good boxing skills and good power. He did not have great movement, at least great lateral movement. I think Tyson's power and strength, combined with excellent hand speed and very good defense, would have been too much for Louis to overcome. Louis could be hurt, as Schmelling showed. I think Tyson would win a mid rounds stoppage.

 

Me too.

 

Tyson was a small heavyweight in his era. Even Holyfield, who himself was considered small for teh division, marveled at how a relative midget like Tyson could have such wild success among the giants.

Now, I'm probably still going to pick Mike in this one, but... it's a close fight.

 

I think Joe Louis and Sonny Liston are best equipped heavyweights to beat Tyson.
I'd make Ali and Foreman similarly very strong favourites against Mike too.

 

What a great handicap match THAT would be: Louis and Liston tagging against Tyson! Could headline BotchaMania for sure.

 

Prime Louis - 6'2'' 210 lbs
Prime Tyson - 5'11'' 215 lbs

 

I don't think 210 lbs. was Joe's prime fighting weight.

Helluva match up nonetheless.

 

Let’s say 205lbs then.

The point is that we are not looking at a massive size gap, and some physical parameters such as range, favour Louis.

 

If anybody didn't know it already then the opening sentence of your drivel above confirms that you're total knowledge of boxing could be written down on the back of a postage stamp.
Tyson the best fighter ever on the inside?!?! I despair, what do you actually see when you watch a boxing match.
Just give up and go elsewhere maybe back to the General Forum you're beyond a joke. If you were trolling it would at least give you some excuse, but the frightening thing is, I don't believe you are.

 

He ranged anywhere from 205-210.

He weighed 207 when he knocked out Buddy Baer in one round.

He weighed 213 when he knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott.

211 when he crushed top contender Tami Mauriello.

 

Yet it is one of the very few sports that can have regression between eras....

 

Nope, I'd say his prime was around 200 lbs. Range favors Louis? Please explain...

 

Whats the blueprint to beat Tyson?

A stick and move operation on the back foot , with the effective use of an uppercut.

Tillis showed an early draft of the print. Douglas executed it.

Louis didn't have an elusive back foot game. He could set traps back and forth at mid range but hadn't the back ward range of an Ali or Holmes.
Mike would run over him. You can't take on Tyson on the front foot , especially not when you're a small 190 pound HW.
Lewis knew that when faced with Tyson's washed up shell.

Louis could try the Holyfield approach and stay up in his chest. Joe's right uppercut was one of the most perfect ever thrown. I don't think he'd have the strength to over power Tyson to deliver it enough times to get a knock out.
Tyson over powered the strong as an oz Smith for 12 rounds.
I think Tyson would blow Louis away.

 

I tend to agree with you Dino :good

A little too much power and speed from Tyson.

 

I tend to go with Tyson here but not with any great conviction, I really couldn't go with any heavyweight to beat Joe Louis with any great conviction.
I just think the intensity of Tyson's early attack would be something Louis just wouldn't have encountered before.
By the same token Tyson might be countered by combinations the power and speed that he'd never experienced and it's not inconceivable that he might walk onto a shot or a combination that has him in big trouble.
I would go for Tyson inside 6 rounds but beyond that when Mike's intensity and tempo tended to drop I'd go with Louis.