You can't convince me Louis beats Tyson

Close nine out of ten threads.:hey

 

It is very rare that you bring somebody round to the opposite position in a thread like this.

You can often bring them closer to your position.

You can plant an idea in their head that will germinate over time, and might bring them to your position in a year or two.

That is the nature of the game.

 

What's the name so I can search it

 

Oh never mind Azzer

 

The weight difference is only 10-15 pounds because Louis was 200-205 in his prime. Louis would pepper Tyson with the jab all night and hit him with combos and by the late rounds he would knock Tyson out or get a clear UD.

 

It's also what Mike Tyson thrived on. Does Louis have the defense to stunt Tyson's offense?

Ok, so when was Joe's prime, Janitor? When did he peak? And what did he weigh? I'll leave this up to you.

 

Forget the weight discussion. Tyson was completely foiled by a Evan Fields who was a natural 200-205 guy. Louis is plenty big enough to pull the trick.

The question is if Louis can utilize his quick, scientific combos to untrack Tyson... and how much time he would have to accomplish this. Louis hit plenty hard enough, was skilled enough and fast enough. Of these things there is ZERO doubt.

 

Exactly. Weight is irrelevant. I was never one to say Louis would be too small for Tyson. He has the ability to win this, I just don't think he would. But I do think Louis would beat guys like the Klits. He ranks very high head to head.

 

At the end of the day, any fighter who beats another fighter on a single, given night is assumed to beat the same fighter any possible night. That is simply not true. It's a matter of whose plan works first, whose strong suit is played out first and if the other guy can recover to turn the narrative of the fight toward his own favored slant. And a lot of it ships passing in the night at different stages in their careers and their potentials. It's not science. In fact, a lot of it is chance when you get to this level.

 

Yes indeed. Pitting two ATG heavyweights is a tough assignment and there's always a bit of bias at every turn. I favor Tyson over everyone, or at least 50/50 going in. From what I've seen on film, that aggressive offensive approach always gave Louis fits. But it's a tactical offense. Someone like Dempsey or Marciano give Louis hell. I favor Louis over each but it's never a given. I think that's the reason most posters are so thorough and confident at picking a winner. We realize it's a matter of chance but when leaning towards a winner it's more of a, how do I put it, "shrewd" argument.

 

Hey, Seamus, that's classified information you're divulging there .....

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