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Does anyone have an opinion as to what is ultimately the most skillfull form of defense in boxing, or rather which technique, head movement, footwork or parrying and blocking takes the most skill and finesse, and the most skilled practicioner of these various skills? Or even what would be some scenarios in head to head battles between the masters of these various forms of defensive skills? Battles between defensive masters...if that wouldn't drive the Gatti=type slugger fans crazy...

 

times change really.

Boxing aint as dangerous, still bet my Mum worries like mad though. She once threatened if i ever get to beat up shell jump in the ring and pull the other guy off of me.

I think its worse me and my brother box. (were complete opposites boxing wise hes a physical fighter very aggresive, im savvy and think)

 

good thoughts in here.

all defence is very hard to master, trust me.

I'd say the footwork is the hardest to master as you have to be lightning quick and have very strong and fit legs to be able to do it for prolonged periods of time.

The head movement is more you have it or you dont IMO to be a true master at it.

Blocking is perhaps the easiest method but the guys who can pull it off brillaintly can be devastating. If you can time it perfectly and constantly use it it can be simply amazing.

there all tough to master

Well H2H match ups against defencive masters is a good idea

for example Benitez vs Locche at LWW would be a good one.

However i think Wilfredo can win this pretty clear by using the Peppermint approach with fast combinations/flurries and away again. Also Benitez was a different class of fighter to Locche in terms of his offence - punch variety, power, versatility and even jab.

Benitez vs Whittaker again at LWW or even WW would be one to savour whats your thoughts on it?

 

hes 1 1/2 years younger. and little hes only 40KGs no way well ever be near each others weights.

we do sometimes spar but hes driven on emotions whereas im cool and calculated. I make him miss and he gets madder and madder and madder and tries fouling etc... so i mix in some heavy shots to stand my ground and the trainer normally stops it about that point. We havent sparred in a while.

But i am a bit bigger and i think stylistically its a huge advantage for me aswell.

Hes a good boxer though won more than me as he is super confident and im more shy and not as confidentso i lost afew fights thinking i wasnt good enough etc....

 

yeh haha.

We used to spar hundreds of rounds like 30 mins non stop. but we kept fighting afterwards haha

if anyones helped with my style most its him hence the big style advantage for me im the perfect foil for my brother he likes to set stuff up with the jab but he cant. Only thing is hes rough as hell with his head and he refuses to wear a head guard so i end up with a swollen head.

anyway, taking away an opponents jab how important is this for a defensive fighter to do

 

exaclty right and generally the faster guy will win.

 

Wow, when brothers really go at it..well we know about the reluctance of the Klitschko bros, which is probably due to mamma's wishes that her boys don't fight, but there was the example, on the other hand, of the Quarry brothers, who really laid it on each other, rather Jerry really laying it on Mike...probably didn't ultimately do Mike any good. GPater, that's quite interesting about you and your brother sparring, and the different styles and dispostions...I definitely prefer your style...it's what I would have worked to patter myself after if I were a boxer..I'd be a defensive sort, and put the crowd to sleep more than my opponents (lol)..after all, and I use this quote a lot, and it was from Willie Pep to another Willie, Pastrano..."the fans don't pay your hospital bills"...

 

It is quite odd we have completly different styles as were both tall and fast for our reespective weights. Hes slightly stronger but i have better fitness. In sparring i normally make him miss and he tries hurting me so it helps me with my defence and him with controll. My style is more the 'pure' boxer which i appreciaate more his is more an agressive stalking fighter using fast combinations like a Pacquiao without the feet work.

different strokes aint it?

 

Man, that's a tough one..it would be one of the most cerebral outright boxing exhibitions one could ever hope for...two geniuses...I have to deliberate on that one before I can say for sure...

 

I prefer like you say the stalker vs boxer or boxer vs brawler match ups aswell. I also like Boxer vs Boxer, hell i even like brawler vs brawler i like all boxing but id rather sit down and watch Pep fight than say Gatti. However i do like some brawlers like Chacon and basilio but they was smart with it.

I love the boxing aspect of boxing rather than the fighting. The technical side o fthe game is bueatiful and i love it and the rough side of the game is ugly and raw but still brillaint.

yeh that is tough, probably the best match up between defensive boxers IMO. the best display of boxing ever.