that exact thought crossed my mind TGA. i think he moved out of necesity as as i said Ortiz was beating him in the inside from what i saw. ill post it up tommorow
I think Tyson, in his prime anyway, had some excellent defensive and evasive skills. During his prime years, he only got hit with two or three meaningful punches, and he was never swollen or bloody. That is damn impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHERzmAd_g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl6TiOvDf00
more and more it's the defensive geniuses and the master technicians that fascinate me the most in boxing...more so that the sluggers and the big punchers.
Emile Griffith is to be appreciated, especially his fights with Tiger, Briscoe and even his 2nd fight with Monzon, but there were countless fights with him using a classy, accurate overhand right and intelligent fighting to win decisions..decisions and more decisions. That would be another thread topic...guys who had power who opted for points victories instead of going for knockouts.
By the way, this "you can't touch this" thread won't die...I keep coming back to it..it's fascinating.
In the 12th and last, a round Foreman needed, he can't catch Jimmy Young flush. Granted, especially in his younger days, Big George wasn't the best finisher, not to be confused with puncher, (he got flustered), lacked ring presence, the exact attribute our untouchables have to spare. But he hardly lays a glove on Young in this round, a round he has to win. Also notice how expert Young was in breaking the other guy's rhythm. As soon as Foreman is on his way in Young steps left or right, sometimes right into the guy, jabbing as he does. And that's when he does the bulk of his scoring, off the other guy's movement.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePc6gKmYWo
Absolutely. It's astonishing how varied the sport of boxing and its competitors have been, considering how basic the primary objective is.
same here, i would rather watch Pernell or pep run rings around an opponent than i would watch Foreman vs Lyle I think Griffith is more a well rounded technician than a great defensive fighter. Grat points you bring up about him. definitly, i love the defensive guys it really is amazing, the variation is immense. Look at the first punch you learn, the Jab theres about 20 ways on how to throw it
bump thi slovely thread up Just been watching Ken Buchanan and at times he was a ghost, had great ring general ship that enabled him to stay in the ring center and his foot speed and movement kept him away from shots but if he got close he had great bobbing and zigging head movement. Afew other guys who were defensive masters we should discuss are Willie Pastrano and Ralph Dupas Locche video on the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP5w-d8U73s its just processing ones its processed i will add comments to it and break down Locche stylisically (particulary his defence) for you guys
Great job, Greg. Really appreciated your commentary, too. Good observation on Locche's bobbing and weaving and how he used his knees. Thanks for this one! We owe you.
no problem. You might miss something i see and vice versa. His knees was an important part of his defence he kind of dropped them then slipped. However i liked his head placement it made him such a small target. no probs.
heres a great video i found which was made for this thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPjl...owthread.php?t=159405&feature=player_embedded
Woot, woot! Fan****intabulous, what fun, enjoyed every drop of that video, Greg. The Sunday Times 'll have to wait... All these guys had that sixth sense in abundance. All were very comfortable in that land of imminent danger. Beautiful. Tyson, yeah, of course; such a great offensive fighter you can forget. Hamed, uh-huh; sweet Willie and Nicolino, a wonder, maybe the eighth? Why do I keep wanting to simplify this? What's that you say, because I am a simpleton? Maybe so, and I know you'd get no argument from my wife. But guys that think like Houdinis are Houdinis, true escape artists, masters in the art not of illusion, but of E-llusion. Guys whose first thought is to score are, because of that approach vulnerable.