You Can't Touch This...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Chinxkid, Jul 15, 2009.


  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    that exact thought crossed my mind TGA. i think he moved out of necesity as as i said Ortiz was beating him in the inside from what i saw.

    ill post it up tommorow
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    more and more it's the defensive geniuses and the master technicians that fascinate me the most in boxing...more so that the sluggers and the big punchers.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Emile Griffith is to be appreciated, especially his fights with Tiger, Briscoe and even his 2nd fight with Monzon, but there were countless fights with him using a classy, accurate overhand right and intelligent fighting to win decisions..decisions and more decisions. That would be another thread topic...guys who had power who opted for points victories instead of going for knockouts.
     
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    By the way, this "you can't touch this" thread won't die...I keep coming back to it..it's fascinating.
     
  6. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looking forward to seeing this highlight.

    Good defence is my favourite thing to watch in the ring.
     
  7. Chinxkid

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    In the 12th and last, a round Foreman needed, he can't catch Jimmy Young flush. Granted, especially in his younger days, Big George wasn't the best finisher, not to be confused with puncher, (he got flustered), lacked ring presence, the exact attribute our untouchables have to spare. But he hardly lays a glove on Young in this round, a round he has to win. Also notice how expert Young was in breaking the other guy's rhythm. As soon as Foreman is on his way in Young steps left or right, sometimes right into the guy, jabbing as he does. And that's when he does the bulk of his scoring, off the other guy's movement..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AePc6gKmYWo
     
  8. Sweet Pea

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    Absolutely. It's astonishing how varied the sport of boxing and its competitors have been, considering how basic the primary objective is.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    same here, i would rather watch Pernell or pep run rings around an opponent than i would watch Foreman vs Lyle

    I think Griffith is more a well rounded technician than a great defensive fighter. Grat points you bring up about him.

    definitly, i love the defensive guys

    it really is amazing, the variation is immense.

    Look at the first punch you learn, the Jab

    theres about 20 ways on how to throw it
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    bump thi slovely thread up


    Just been watching Ken Buchanan and at times he was a ghost, had great ring general ship that enabled him to stay in the ring center and his foot speed and movement kept him away from shots but if he got close he had great bobbing and zigging head movement.

    Afew other guys who were defensive masters we should discuss are Willie Pastrano and Ralph Dupas

    Locche video on the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP5w-d8U73s its just processing

    ones its processed i will add comments to it and break down Locche stylisically (particulary his defence) for you guys
     
  11. Chinxkid

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    Great job, Greg. Really appreciated your commentary, too. Good observation on Locche's bobbing and weaving and how he used his knees. Thanks for this one! We owe you.
     
  12. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the footage. :good
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    no problem. You might miss something i see and vice versa.

    His knees was an important part of his defence he kind of dropped them then slipped. However i liked his head placement it made him such a small target.

    no probs.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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  15. Chinxkid

    Chinxkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Woot, woot! Fan****intabulous, what fun, enjoyed every drop of that video, Greg. The Sunday Times 'll have to wait...

    All these guys had that sixth sense in abundance. All were very comfortable in that land of imminent danger. Beautiful. Tyson, yeah, of course; such a great offensive fighter you can forget. Hamed, uh-huh; sweet Willie and Nicolino, a wonder, maybe the eighth?

    Why do I keep wanting to simplify this? What's that you say, because I am a simpleton? Maybe so, and I know you'd get no argument from my wife. But guys that think like Houdinis are Houdinis, true escape artists, masters in the art not of illusion, but of E-llusion. Guys whose first thought is to score are, because of that approach vulnerable.