You could say Margarito cheated in the cotto fight but..

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  1. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactly, what about when Mosley hurt Cotto? Torres? Corley? Were all their gloves illegal? Margarito won the fight because he chased cotto,didn't give him a second to rest, and cut off the ring effectively, anyone who says otherwise based on assumptions is an idiot.
     
  2. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If margo cheated, then he's a cheater. If not then he's not. He got banned for 1 year which means...
     
  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    he's a cheato?! :huh:D
     
  4. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't forget Super Judah before he caught the ****in low blows that Cotto fans don't ever like to talk about...

    Point is. He's been hurt before. Plenty of times. Easily. Now all of a sudden Margo has to have bricks in order to hurt him? I don't buy that ****.
     
  5. Martini643

    Martini643 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  6. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    yes people, the day has come that some boxing fans actually believe this man was loading his gloves with brass knuckles since day 1

    without them, margo would be nothing...maybe mma should be banned then, i mean they use wrapped fist under 4oz gloves...
     
  7. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not THAT he hurt Cotto. It's what Cotto looked like by the end of the fight.

    In hindsight, you wonder if Margarito truly had the power to bludgeon someone that badly.
     
  8. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    dude, it's boxing...people that get hit get cut and bruised
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This post make zero sense....Margarito is and has always been viewed as a big welterweight.....
    Margarito has always been viewed as a puncher not a finesse guy......why would it suprise someone that he'd touch up someone's face????

    This is'nt a case like it was with Luis Resto against Billy Collins......
    Resto was viewed as a feathefisted fighter with little punching power.....and when Panama Lewis took half the padding off of Resto's gloves......Resto rearranged Collings face with cuts and bruises everywhere.

    It was a shock that Resto was able to do that as a heavy underdog......
    ....it was not a suprise to anyone that Margarito had the physical capacity to rearrange any fighters face as a Welterweight.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is no evidence that he cheated against Cotto.

    But there is clear evidence that he DID attempt to cheat against Mosley.

    Therefore, the question will always be asked, like the old Diana Ross song.

    How long has this been going on ?


    If he never cheated before, this is unfortunate for him as his earlier victories will always be viewed with suspicion.

    We'll never know for sure, but it's certainly probable that Shane wasn't his first time.
     
  11. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he did damn near take Lujan's ear off. Fair enough.

    I realize he is a career welterweight with career welterweight pop. I'd love to believe everything he did that night was on the up and up. I was happy as hell for him after he won. He'd paid his dues and made it, and it seemed like he left no doubt who was better that night.

    I'm not interested in creating doubt. Margarito and his trainer have forced us to doubt him. They brought this on themselves by breaking the rules. I've watched my fair share of fights, and as I said, with the knowledge that Margarito could have been cheating, I think it's possible that was an unnatural beating. Cotto was an absolute mess.
     
  12. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    whaaat?????...:-(
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm rehashing the same old argument, but whether you believe it was intentional or not.....
    .....Margarito and Capetillo made a good case for themselves that it was unintentional.

    The CSAC may have made a determination to suspend them even if they thought there story held water, because the dont want to set a precedence where others make the same excuse.

    They suspended Capetillo and Margarito, but the commision has'nt ruled that they did it deliberately.

    If I'm not mistaken, the commision I believe in its suspension of Margarito, suspended him for being negligent, which means careless in his duties to control those around him that he hires.
     
  14. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I actually feel sorry for shane because instead of people focussing on the boxing lesson and career best performance he gave margarito they're worried more about whether cotto was cheated but let me say this I think with or without loaded wraps mosley would have won that night why? because he had the perfect game plan and cotto didnt. Cotto circled the ring with his back to ropes all night trying to counter and never once tried to keep the fight at ring centre where marg couldnt touch himand he also never once tied marg up (which works effectively against marg who has no inside game) because his pride wont let him clinch. Cotto could have made it much easier on himself and his game plan fed into margaritos hands because he could never maintain that pace against the ropes. I saw as early as the second round that margarito was gonna catch up to him eventually because cotto wasnt working the body and wasnt tying him up or pivoting off the ropes effectively.
    Theres my two cents worth and I wouldnt bet against it happening again in the rematch because to me margarito has his number
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    So was Meldrick Taylor's face at the hands of JC Chavez, are we to question Chavez' fists also....

    .....are we to question Rosendo Alvarez' hand wrapping when he touched up Ricardo Lopez' face in a fight Lopez won handily?

    ....and really what is there to question in Margarito's fight with Cotto, when the NSAC has already said that Margarito had his hands wrapped strictly with the commission's material, and in the presence of both an inspector and a Cotto representative.
    Alot of people in this forum have really blocked out of their mind what the Nevada commission had to say.


    Why are people ignoring what the NSAC had to say on the matter.

    In California, the fighters are allowed to bring their own bag of tricks. The probability of a fighter cheating with the handwraps in California is alot greater than it is anywhere else where handwrapping material is provided by the commision.....

    I'd even go as far as to say that its nearly impossible to cheat in Nevada, unless Margarito would have bought off both the Nevada inspector and the person assigned by Cotto himself to represent him at the wrapping session.

    Simply stated, its about impossible that Margarito cheated with his wraps against Cotto.