You could say Margarito cheated in the cotto fight but..

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  1. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't buy it. Something was up in that fight. Cotto boxing nicely for six rounds and then the tide started to turn. Cotto is an elite fighter not a lujan or however you spell his name. You could see it in Cotto's eyes when he went to one knee. It like his eyes were saying, what the hell do I have to do to hurt this guy. That is it, when your taking a pounding with possibly illegal tactics, you punch output and power diminish. Something was wrong and this is not the first time he used it and possibly other boxers get away with it too. Neveda is trying to save face. Geez, we can't tell people we were not payign attention. How many times the cameramen go to the locker rooms where they are taking care of the wraps and everyone is just bullshiting with the fighters, trainers, janitors, etc. Why bring up Alvarez or JC Chavez. They are proven powerful punchers. Margarito is not known for a powerful puncher, but a volume puncher. Anyway, no funny gloves, twelve decision to Cotto. I don't care about a rematch. It is too late. Tell that to Taylor. We won't know what Cotto has to offer until he fights a top five fighter. That was a serious beating he took from a volume fighter not puncher.
     
  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    WTF do you know about boxing? SSM has KTFO a lot of guys especially below 147. However, AM was exactly the type of guy who is going to take a lot of punishment against SSM, because he comes forward and uses his chin as his defense. That worked against Cintron, Cotto etc because they lacked a plan and when they ran from AM after landing a shot or combination of shots, AM got in a shot or two. Those accumulated shots broke down those fighters. SSM stood there, threw combos and then clinched, moved within the range of AM's fully extended punches or moved laterally. AM couldn't land **** on SSM. Eventually, SSM started unleasing hell on AM as he realised AM was not landing anything on him. SSM has a sturdy chin, having never been stopped, so AM, although he has decent power, was never going to do enough damage, even with brass knuckles. In the end, every man is human and a huge left combined with the accumulated punishment that would have KOed any man at 147 rocked him and AM was gone.

    Let me simplify it for the dummys. SSM used a good strategy of not running and using his movement to avoid getting hit. He has very decent power and AM's chin-first strategy was perfect for SSM. SSM unleashed some great combos on AM whose lack of defensive skills cost him, not the lack of brass knuckles.

    I still think AM will beat Cotto with legal wraps. It is a stylistic thing.
     
  3. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, Cotto got pounded by the better man that night.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Look, snappy punches **** people up.

    Marg was throwing arm punches at Cotto and made him look like an aardvark.

    He throwed arm punches at Lujan and took his ear off.

    Even when Foreman used to throw arm punches you could see there was a certain 'snap' to them. Not so with Margarito.

    Why would he use loaded gloves against a supposedly past-it fighter, who looked like crap for the majority of his previous fight and who was supposed to lose on workrate alone, but not against a top 5 P4P, undefeated two-weight World champion who was favoured (by most if not all) to beat him.

    That's just my reasoning.
     
  5. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So true. I posted something very close to your post in the past. I guess it is not worth even arguing about it anymore. The damage was done and it can't be reversed. If the fight again and Cotto beats his ass, people will just say, Margarito is shot due to the beating Mosley gave him.
     
  6. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or they may say that Cotto was finishing up on the beating he gave him in their first fight.
     
  7. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Either way, you can't win. We maybe wrong, but as flea said, use funny gloves on someone you know you can beat as to not using them for someone your not sure you can beat???
     
  8. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Yeah, but what if he was able to last the full 12 being hit by only by legal gloves rather than Plaster of Paris in his wraps lol...
     
  9. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    100% true.
    Also did you notice on the second round when AM hit Cotto with a body shot to the side and Cotto twisted in the ropes like worm. IMHO it was way too early in the fight for a body punch to have that kind of effect on someone who is known to handle a body punch well you know, but thats just my opinion though......
     
  10. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nothing that anyone can do about it, unless someday Margarito is retired, gets drunk, and tells the truth to an off duty news reporter. I know, I am reaching.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    OK then, depict a scenario by which Capetillo can insert illegal knucklepads in Margarito's hands???

    Remember now, in California vs Mosely, Capetillo had already made the knucklepads he would use on Margarito at home.......and because neither the inspector or Richardson asked to look at and feel the first knucklepad on Margarito's right hand, it got past them.

    ......but in Nevada where Margarito battered Cotto from pillar to post, since the fighter must use the commissions tape and gauze, Capetillo would have had to make that knucklepad in the view of the inspector.

    ....how did Capetillo form Plaster out of thin air?

    ....how did Capetillo use moisture in those wraps in the plain view of an inspector and a Cotto represenatitve?

    How did Margarito and Capetillo cheat using the commission's tape and gauze, and in the presence of a Nevada inspector and Cotto representative?


    Answer these questions or STFU!
     
  12. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does a magician pull a rabit out of a hat?
     
  13. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Capetillo is more likely to do that....he looks like he is not a stranger to the Coronas.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    If this were true, we'd have a shitload of trainers out there who were magicians!

    Now that you speak of it, Muhamad Ali was an actual Margician......maybe we should petition somebody on the higher up to look into opening an investigation that he plastered his gloves vs Sonny Liston and George Formeman.......looks to me like he just pushed his armpunches foward, but the impact was brutal!

    Lets get a petition going!:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:lol::nut
     
  15. Brent

    Brent VRWC President Emeritus Full Member

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    One way or another they give a fighter an unfair advantage. They are illegal for a reason.