You demand the fight to be at welterweight, get ready to hit by a welterweight!

Completely agree.
And honestly even early on it was evident that JMM was sitting down on his punches way more, when he said he would go for the KO that was not just hot air.
Everything he threw was with bad intentions.
The KO was amazing but that first KD.... i rarely seen JMM put that much weight and torque into a shot, the effect was insane.... he damn well lifted Pac in the air.
Never knew JMM could generate that kind of power if he really wanted too.

 

Yep, they must have thought JMM would have grown old by now constantly putting on the extra weight


JMM is a mexican legend who in my opinion beat pac 3 out of the 4 times they fought

 

yep. another great proverb....what goes around comes around....

 

Don't think the weight made much difference. Marquez always gives Pac a tough fight. The weight could have worked to Pac's advantage if he'd been able to land the big punches but he didn't and Marquez did so skill, intelligence etc made the difference imo.

 

I didn't really think the weight is an issue anyway. It's not as if Pac was going to be 10 lbs heavier on fight night or anything. On fight night they've always only been 2 or 3 lbs apart in all their fights.

Of all the things to criticize Pac about in their fights, this seems like the least of an issue.

 

Marquez weighed the same weight he did in the Floyd fight.

He may have had a couple pounds more muscle,couple pounds less fat, but lets chill on the supposed amount of weight he gained!

 

Maybe JMM tactic to sit down on his punches made a difference but I'm still not sure the weight itself made a difference because I don't think being above your natural, ideal weight is an advantage. I would have thought JMM would be able to hit harder in a p4p sense at his natural weight plus he would be hitting a smaller more drained Pac so I think JMM could have done the same thing in their fights at lower weights if he'd chosen to fight in the same way. Fighting at a higher weight means Pacquiao is also bigger and hits harder so Marquez himself is more likely to get KO'd. The more times they fight the more Marquez figures him out and Pacquiao getting older and declining physically takes away his main advantages over Marquez so bottom line I'm still not convinced the weight helped Marquez.

 

It's moreso the distribution of weight.

He isn't carrying stones and **** to gain muscle, he's doing heavy squats and deads to gain weight in the right place and it paid off.

:good

 

Well said big bone:good
I'm pleased to tell you you're one of the best posters in this forum.

 

After reading your post I immediately pictured JMM wearing a crown with Eazy E's Real Mother****ing G's playing in the background.

 

The irony is I believe Manny was 147 in the ring for fight 3, 151 for fight 4. Marquez was 150 in the ring for fight 3, whereas he was 148 for fight 4.