You ever notice Miguel Cotto has never beaten a reigning champion?

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  1. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has never once taken a title from a champion. All 3 of his belts were vacant titles. With so many champions out there why would arum choose to buy him titles rather than have him actually fight for them.
     
  2. boricua100%

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  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    These days belts are meaningless. I'd rather see him fight Mosely, Margo Clottey, Pac et al rather than Berto and Hlatshwayo.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    You're preaching to the choir. I've been pointing this out for a while now. Not only has he feasted on vacant straps, but the manner in which he has done so is pretty dubious. Fighting Pinto for a vacant WBO strap was understandable given his lack of experience at the time. However, I don't get why Arum would pay step aside money to have fight for a vacant strap in his first fight at Welterweight. Mayweather was the WBC champ, why not try to get a shot at that title? I also don't get why team Cotto acted like Williams didn't exist, and then immediately fought a second rate, domestic level fighter for his belt immediately after Williams was forced to vacate it.
     
  5. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sounds like you are onto something :nut
     
  6. heatman

    heatman Fight Game Connoisseur Full Member

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    while statistically thats a fact. You cant really say anything ba about this guys resume

    Quintana, Judah,Mosley,Margarito,Clottey and now Pacquaio - no WW has faced opposition that good.

    So while you're right the fact that he hasnt beaten a reigning champ says nothing about his career so far
     
  7. ekar

    ekar Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto has fought almost everybody in WW that worth giving a damn. So I say the only guy who has better opposition at that weight is mosley. Cotto should be top 1 or 2 WW right now. Thats really the only thing that should matter.
     
  8. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Blah blah blah.

    Mosley was an interim titlist when Cotto beat him.
    Clottey was a titlist who got stripped to face Cotto.
    Margarito was a titlist who got stripped to face Cotto.
    Cotto has beaten 10 former and future titlists.

    This is a bull**** argument. Without sanctioning body politics, he would have already fought several current titlists.
     
  9. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Who cares about ABC titles? Just look at his resume he doesn't duck anybody.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The only nitpick I have here is that Mosley himself has definitely faced opposition that good at WW.

    DLH, Forrest x2, Taylor (was quite good at 147, only Shane beat him there), Estrada, Collazo, Cotto, Margarito and soon to be Berto is at least as good if not better than Quintana, Judah, Mosley, Margarito, Clottey, and Pacquiao. :nod
     
  11. Duran From all

    Duran From all Member Full Member

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    the wbc diamond belt is vacate lol maybe miguel he wins a other vacant lol
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Also, beating an active champion isn't necessarily that much greater an accomplishment than picking up and defending vacant titles. What matters is the quality of opposition. Cotto's has been consistently great since N'Dou, with only the occasional Urkal or Gomez hiccup here and there.
     
  13. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    This mentality has been bashed numerous times on esb and placed in the "look at me I'm smart and detail oriented" jar for losers. I believe big reg and serveral other simpletons have been regulated there a long time ago son.
     
  14. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nicely done!:good
     
  15. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Can't be serious...
    ANyway, just go..please.