You gave Maidana the win over Floyd, but had Brook over Porter? Explain!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014.


Page 1 of 3
  1. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,788
    3
    Dec 12, 2009
    Something isn't adding up here.

    50% of forum had Maidana winning, with the other half having Floyd. Now 90% of the forum has Brook winning with a small 10% having Porter winning.

    Here's a few things I have to ask

    Are you saying Brook landed more accurate punches on Brook than Floyd did on Maidana?

    Are you saying if Floyd held a lot more in the first half of the fight you would scored the fight for him convincingly?

    Or is it you score rabbit punches, and low blows?


    I would like to know when you guys score for aggression, and when you don't I'm confused. Because when Alexander was holding Maidana after every exchange you guys gave him a hard time.


    I have no problem how people score fights as long as they're consistent!
     
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    #1
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    60,129
    5,612
    Nov 5, 2013
    Everyone who knows how to score a fight knows that Mayweather AND Brook won their respective fights

    The ones saying Brook won and Mayweather lost are either 1. *******s or 2. Brittards who dislike Mayweather

    That's it.
     
    MVC!, Aug 18, 2014
    MVC!, Aug 18, 2014
    #2
  3. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

    11,452
    11
    Mar 14, 2009
    I started my own thread on this. I think Floyd just has so many haters that losing 3-4 rounds is enough for people to cry robbery.

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" - Joseph Goebbels

    http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=515499
     
    Golden Boy 360, Aug 18, 2014
    Golden Boy 360, Aug 18, 2014
    #3
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    53,088
    6,685
    Sep 8, 2010
    No. 85% of forum scored for Mayweather. It's the vocal minority that makes it seem like there actually was some small crowd that scored it against him.

    If you thought that Mayweather/Maidana or Brook/Porter should have been a draw or had the losing fighter the winner, then you are simply clueless and invent your own scoring criteria and then choose when to follow that criteria. There are no arguments for the contrary.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    #4
  5. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,788
    3
    Dec 12, 2009


    That makes sense!
     
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    #5
  6. likeafire

    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,786
    430
    May 10, 2014
    50% of the people need to go back to boxing school. Mayweather clearly won over maidana and im a floyd hater. It wasnt even close.

    And brook clearly won over porter, again wasnt even close.
     
    likeafire, Aug 18, 2014
    likeafire, Aug 18, 2014
    #6
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

    245,246
    240,756
    Nov 23, 2013
    Maidana landed clean far more than Porter, at least allowing some debate.
    Porter won the fight walking away if punches to the back count, but they don't.
     
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    #7
  8. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,788
    3
    Dec 12, 2009


    I agree punches to the back don't count, but Maidana' punches were hitting hips, and elbow. He had a round where he score very effectively thought, but that's about it. You can't choose to score rabbit punches for one, but not the other
     
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    Round1gymDC, Aug 18, 2014
    #8
  9. CupidStunt

    CupidStunt Guest

    I had Floyd beating Maidana 116-112 and using the same scoring criteria had Brook winning 118-110
     
    CupidStunt, Aug 18, 2014
    CupidStunt, Aug 18, 2014
    #9
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

    245,246
    240,756
    Nov 23, 2013
    To the untrained eye Maidana was very successful, I go back and forth 6-6 draw or 7-5 Floyd, Maidana landed a higher number of punches than people give him credit for.Floyd wasn't incredibly active for the first half of the fight, based on activity alone Maidana outperformed him early. Porter was lost, looked like a little child beating up his older brother.
     
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    #10
  11. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,212
    4
    Jun 10, 2005
    i had mayweather winning and brook winning :good:good
     
    platnumpapi, Aug 18, 2014
    platnumpapi, Aug 18, 2014
    #11
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    53,088
    6,685
    Sep 8, 2010
    Well, based on activity alone, Paul Williams outperformed Lara from start to finish. Alexander outperformed Kotelnik start to finish based on activity alone...

    Now do you realize why activity alone means close to nothing?
     
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    #12
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

    245,246
    240,756
    Nov 23, 2013
    Activity combined with Maidana landing 221 punches to Mayweather's 230. Means its closer than you want to admit. I think Mayweather eked out a close win barely, but it was far from a dominant performance.
     
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    CST80, Aug 18, 2014
    #13
  14. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,931
    2,692
    Apr 17, 2009
    You can't compare 2 fights... involving 4 different fighters.

    Brook and Mayweather both won comfortably anyway.
     
    bluebird, Aug 18, 2014
    bluebird, Aug 18, 2014
    #14
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

    53,088
    6,685
    Sep 8, 2010
    I haven't heard anyone claim it was dominant.

    Just a solid, good win in a good fight that was much closer than your average viewer thought it would be going in (as most predicted Maidana couldn't possibly win more than one single round).
     
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    Nonito Smoak, Aug 18, 2014
    #15
Page 1 of 3