You guys better start listening to me ... I know what i'm talking about

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  1. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many of those guys lost to a boxer who has never fought a top 50 oponent before?
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Despite being a big fan of Cotto (it might not show but I am) ... I don't trust him ... I thought he was going to elect to brawl with Gomez and get caught with a bull**** punch ... nothing more, nothing less. I didn't think that Gomez was going to dominate him.

    The same goes with Margarito ... if you check my most recent posts on Cotto ... I think that Cotto can win the fight easily by just simply outboxing Margarito ... but something in the back of my mind tells me that Cotto will probably elect to brawl ... or make a crucial mistake and give Margarito an opening ... It doesn't take much for Margarito to corner Cotto and just start to dominate his ass ... and not let up on him till the ref, the bell, or the corner stops it.

    I don't always pick Cotto to lose --
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Good point styles make fights and the fact that Junior Witter has just lost does not take away from the ugly truth that Hatton has ducked his main British rival for years. Forget about being World Champion and getting in line for a shot. Witter would have fought Hatton for the British title when he was beating the likes of Jon Thaxton. You can talk about all things like Hattons the ring magazine champ and Witter should earn his shot and now he lost he can get to the back of the qeue. Its all bull****. Hatton has ducked Witter for YEARS long before he was NO 1 in the World. What makes Witter different than any other light welterweight out there is that he is Hattons BRITISH riva and the BRITISH people have wanted this fight to see who was the best in BRITAIN. Forget world honours and super fights in Las Vegas this was about a British rivarly and fans - who pay Hattons wages - wanted but Hatton has never stepped up to the plate in fear a loss to Witter would ruin his career. Even if he fought Witter now or before he retires it would be case of what the **** took you so long Hatton to fight your British rival? you should have fought him around 2000. and the true answer to that would be - 'well first see I wanted to string 40+ wins together and become a multi millionaire and win severl world titles and live in a nice house and go on holiday ten times a year and be considered the best in the world but if I had fought Witter early on he could have ruined all that because I dont fancy my chances he would have humilated me with his style and has the power to hurt me and belief to beat me and it would have ruined my Golden career before it even began - and my cynical Dad Ray said just have the easy fights for easy money til you get to the top and after Frank Warren has put all his hard work in t get you there just **** him off and promote yourself and you will have even more money money money. Honour and glory and proving myself the best in Britain - **** that. I have a image as a peoples champion and a nice guy but really I am just a money making greedy ****er.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

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    Betty Swallocks:
    Maussa, Urango, and Steward ... don't forget Tszyu and Castillo were all champions at the time they fought Hatton or former champions.

    Witter will never be able to go up to WW and get a title ... he will never be able to accomplish what Ricky has and with his experience against top level opposition current and former p4p guys ... there is no way that Witter stands tall.

    Bradley was in his first title fight ... if i'm not mistaken Maussa beat Harris on his home turf (NY/NJ area) and beat him at the top of his game for a title ... Maussa's only has 2 L's on his record at the time he fought Ricky and was a defending champion.
     
  5. FLINT ISLAND

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    Look at my aviator picture. This guy pictured is a youthful Colin Jones. Jones was about 20 or 21 years old when he fought for the British title. He fought Kirkland Lang - a really talented awkward ****er. Lang was super talented but Jones did not duck him - he was being outboxed outclassed but he ended up knocking Lang out and done the same in a rematch. The point is this Colin was a real fighter fearless he had to go through Lang to win the title he saw no reason to duck him It paid off for him but even if he lost he still did not duck his British rival - he probaly did not even think about ducking him - he is a fighter. Both went on after this fight to fight at world level - Lang beat the great Roberto Duran and Jones fought the great Don Curry. But Hatton has conviently bypassed his British rival to go straight for the world honurs but he should have fought witter before all this. It is a tarnish on Hattons character that he has chosen to ignore Witter and the challenge he represents.
     
  6. JonOli

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    There are Brit V Brit boxing fights up and down the country, all the time, if that's your bag. They are two a penny. Only perhaps once in a decade and more do we see one of our boxers get in the ring with the P4P best.

    I British and I'd much rather see him box world level fights, against world level opponents, and so would the British fans. SKY PPV figures would tell you that.
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

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    Ha Ha ... that sums it all up to rather Hatton was ducking Witter ... the star ability never lies ... the numbers never lie ... the resume never lies and true boxing fans never lie ... they want to see the best fight the best ... not two cross country rivals one that the world doesn't even know about.

    Now if Hatton beat Witter then what ... all that talk about ducking is gone and Witter is seen for what he's always been seen as --

    The American nor the British public want to see that **** ... its all about money ... now I just seen a clip of Witter calling out Hatton and saying that if Hatton paid for his training fees that he would fight Hatton for free ... does this guy think he's cleaver or what? ... his training fees probably reach 7 figures.
     
  8. warrior85

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    :good
     
  9. Executioner

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    i don't get why idiots say hatton was exposed against floyd, i didn't know losing to the pound for pound kingpin means you got exposed.

    Hatton is the man! :smoke
     
  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree.

    But pretty decent is not good enough to earn a shot at the linear LWW shot. If Witter had managed to keep his title and then fight and beat Torres then I'd have been on the same bandwagon for a fight with Hatton. As it happens, he couldnt keep his (vacated) championship and will fall into boxing insignificance.
     
  11. ganchozurdo

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    hatton is overrated
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I don't get that **** either ... he wasn't exposed for anything ... he just wasn't good enough to beat Mayweather ... that takes nothing away from his skill set or his accomplishments. I doubt if anyone can beat Hatton the way that Floyd did ... with one loss on his record - its hard for me to believe that he'll lose again in his prime.

    :nono
     
  13. ganchozurdo

    ganchozurdo Active Member Full Member

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    if he goes up to 147 he gets KTFO by all the top 10 WW except paul will but he doesnt beat any top 10 WW the guy got put on ***** street by collazo
     
  14. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you for real?

    I have never seen worse points than these raised for ANY fight!
     
  15. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    I'm talking about before Hatton reached that level the fight with Witter should have been for the British title.

    Of course go on and have a massive fight and payday against the likes of Mayweather that was the peak of his career but he should have proved himself the best in Britain first.

    Colin Jones beat Kirkland Lang to win British title.
    (Colin reminds me of Ricky - Lang reminds me of Witter).

    Colin Jones then fought for WBC title in Las Vegas.

    Colin Jones then fought pound for pound king Don Curry in his final fight.

    He done it in this order he proved himself the best in Britain first.

    Of course I dont begrudge Hatton the super fights in Vegas against Mayweather but he conviently ignored Witter on the way up.

    I'm surprised Hatton fans dont seem to want the Witter fight - aint you want to see who is the best in Britain?