You guys notice how often Pac gets hit by a jab

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  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd doesn't fight in every possible style you nut huggin fool! Floyd has the same style he's always had and that is a slick defensive counter punching style. He can adapt to his opponents adjustments b/c of his boxing IQ and instinct but he doesn't change up to from a slick defensive counter puncher to a boxer/puncher or brawler when it calls for it.

    If you sit here and try to say you've NEVER see PAC outbox anyone or counter anyone you are a blind ******! That's a serious problem brah. JMM, EM, MAB, DLH and Cotto all are highly skilled boxers with great Defense (minus Cotto on the Great D)! You don't need to be a replica of Floyd to be a great fighter numb nuts. Just look at Joan Guzman.....has a floyd style but no where near the talent that Floyd is. Floyd is on anther level in terms of talent which he is able to do so well in the ring.

    Floyd has NEVER faced a guy as talented as pac...who is dynamic as Manny. And on the flip side Manny hasn't seen a kind of style or talent like Floyd. What that spells out is a very good, close competitive fight where the person who has the best gameplan or strategy going in will ultimately win the fight. It ain't gonna be a easy fight for either guy. I see Floyd edgin this one where he take the worse punishment he's ever taken in the ring....but squeaks by due to his ability to adapt during the fight.....PAC will have to wait for corner instructions from Roach to combat the success Floyd will have and to me that will be the difference.

    And I'm sorry Floyd ain't 10xs better than anyone at this level! He's very good but lets not get carried away.
     
  2. charlievint

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    I 100% agree...just b/c PAC destroyed DLH and Ricky doesn't mean he'll have the style or gameplan to destroy Floyd. Just like Floyd dominating JMM and PAC struggled doesn't mean Floyd will do the same to PAC.....styles make fights. Could not be more true in this situation.
     
  3. hmi

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    Believe it or not but Pac did better defensively than Mosley did against Cotto. I don't know why Pac still have this reputation that he gets hit a lot. I didn't read people saying that Mosley got hit a lot against Cotto but Cotto hit Mosley more than he hit Pac.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    did you notice how often Pacquiao countered Cotto's jab with a straight left to the chin? Must've been something like 30-40 times.

    I also liked how he countered Cotto's double-jab with a stiff jab to the chin here:

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    Cotto was really hurt there.
     
  5. thesmokingm

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    ^^Nice

    True that. It's like omg he hit me with a jab with half his face melting off. Stop the presses!
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    Cotto has a great jab but he over commits on it. He did the same thing against Judah many times but Judah was unable to capitalize on it. Pacquiao did from the get-go.
     
  7. Windigo

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    Wouldn't be to sure about that Floyd's right hand has succeded in putting just one welterweight on the canvas and that was Sharmba Mitchelle. Cotto's jab dropped Clottey so right now the two punches are tied at Welterweight.

    Floyd fans just wont admit that Floyd hasn't shown any real power since he left featherweight.
     
  8. Windigo

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  9. preciseI247

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    This is perfect example of someone who really doesn't know **** about the sport.

    First of all, Why does floyd need to duck "EVERY" punch? Pac is not Julian ****ing jackson in there, he has explosive power but the people he's knocking out with one punch are alot ****ing slower than him, Floyd has a great chin and while a Pac KD is possible, It's not as dangerous as you're making it seem.


    As far as physicality goes, Floyd is alot stronger than Pacquio. The most underrated aspect of this fight is going to be the clinch game. Floyd has a huge advantage on the outside and on the inside he's going to hold Pac to reamain in control, he's the naturally bigger man and if he wants to clinch there's going to be nothing Pac can do.


    Mayweather does have defensive patterns BUT---and this is what alot of you are missing-- His defense has alot of ****ing dimensions to it, It's not just the god damned shoulder roll, People hit alot of arms, shoulders and elbows when they attack Floyd, and he's excellent at controlling distance. Freddie Roach is one of the greatest but Floyd's defense isn't something you can just figure out.


    And lastly, how the **** is Floyd going to "WALK pac backwards and play defense the whole fight" ? That doesn't even make ****ing sense.
     
  10. Concrete

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    Cotto has the same reach as Manny. In order for Cotto to get the jab off he has to stay in Pacman's punch range. Mayweather doesn't, add 5 inches to that Jab Cotto thrown plus 100 times the reflexes to get away. There is no way Manny would have been able to pull that jumping left hook without getting rocked by PBF plus he loses power by jumping like that. Mayweather would have countered with a hard right straight or hook if he saw that type of opening and he would have the speed and reach to hit him real flush with a long follow through especially with the straight.

    Manny can't lapse in technique like that vs PBF he has to stay disciplined when it comes to those type of things.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    Manny threw that jumping left hook because Cotto was already rocked and out of position. You gotta understand when the fighters throw what punches to be able to understand how fights play out.
     
  12. preciseI247

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    He's talking about the beginning when Cotto tries to come in with a jab only to be met with Manny's jab and immediatley going defensive, which is why cotto couldn't be as effective with it as floyd will be, because of the lack of reach.


    Jesus how do you ****ers spend all day talking about this sport and still not know **** about it?
     
  13. PH|LLA

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    you must have poor reading comprehension because i was responding to the part where he said that if Pacquiao threw a jumping left hook at PBF like he did there against Cotto, he will get countered.

    you need to get hooked on phonics ******* because obviously you're a few steps behind the rest.
     
  14. preciseI247

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    I admit, I missed that sentence. And hooked on phonics is a damn good program mother****er!


    Still though, I remain baffled at the lack of fight knowledge on this forum.
     
  15. Concrete

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