You guys realise... that spinks is as 1 Dimensional as mayorga..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kirk, Jan 23, 2008.


  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I think that term is often used poorly around here...

    Being one dimensional means, that that fighter has only one way to beat you... and its ALWAYS used for fighters like mayorga, margarito, trinidad, ect...

    sorry, but it goes the other way too...

    Spinks, and Malignaggi (just for off the head examples) are ALSO one dimensional, pitty pat boxing fans just wont accept that...

    Mayorga is no sooner going to outbox and show great ring generalship then will spinks show overwelming force, will, and power to overwelm and stop an opponent.

    So at to where mayorga may only have 1 way to beat you, so too does spinks.
     
  2. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    I am trying to understand it but I don't.

    Spinks is technical, a boxer. That can never be one-dimensional imo. Otherwise DLH can also be called one-dimensional..

    Please explain more/better.
     
  3. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good point..ive never really heard it used for jabbing/defensive specialists
     
  4. Mundo

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    :patsch
     
  5. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    :rofl Repeat in your own words what he means dumb*ss?:hey
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    You guys always have to throw Whitaker in there. Why?

    Whitaker was a boxer, but being a boxer doesn't make you one-dimensional, unless you consider Mayweather one-dimensional as well. Malignaggi and Spinks are movers who throw out the jab to keep their distance, therefore can be classified as one-dimensional. Whitaker? Not even close, way too much variety to be considered one-dimensional. And as far as asking about "overwhelming force, will, and power to overwhelm and stop an opponent", ask Hurtado what he thought of Whitaker.
     
  7. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    i agree that malignaggi is 1 dimensional...but Whitaker in no means was 1 dimensional lol.

    But I get what you're saying, When Winky beat Tito, Tito was labeled 1d, which is true he is. But Winky only implys 1 style every time he fights, Hopkins exposed figured him out and beat him. Winky i believe is pretty much 1 dimensional too. And it also kind of isn't fair to look at these fighters and label them 1d at the end of their careers. The older you get the more and more 1d you get because you just can't bring as much versatility to your game anymore.

    Hopkins, Cotto, Floyd are all examples of fighters that are 2d..Hopkins early in his career could pressure your ass and wear you down hard, but now he is a ridiculous ring general and circles his opponents. Floyd is ridiculously versatile, and Cotto can pressure the **** out of you, he can also fight off his back foot as well and imply a jab with a wide range of different punches.
     
  8. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    I think Kirk's theory of Sweet Pea being one dimensional at 147 doesn't hold water, because when he had to he turned aggressor and knocked out Hurtado, at a time when Pernell hadn't shown that part of him in years.
     
  9. Mundo

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    spinks can only beat you by running....not moving.....but running...and using pitty pat jabs

    mayorga can only beat you by swingning wild and landing a huge shot and hopefully Koing you...

    thats what has been said of both

    mostly though of guys like mayorga....also guys like Margo, tito

    guys that fihgt one style


    but never is it brought up to guiys like spinks...who only fights one way...and can be beaten if you impose a style that can trouble him

    guys like hoya, bhop, pbf.....you have to do many things to beat them....not just one simple thing
     
  10. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    You can't just watch the Whitaker vs DLH fight and the Whitaker vs Tito fight which were at the end of his career and label the guy 1d because you only saw him fight 1 way which was 100% focused on jabbing and out slicking his opponent. Watch these guys when they're young and you'll see the versatility that they bring to boxing. IMO Whitaker was undefeated coming into the Tito fight, And the Tito loss meant absolutely nothing to Whitaker's career, He never lost in his prime period end of story.
     
  11. ChampionsForever

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  12. Sweet Pea

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    Actually, if you rewatch the Tito fight, he's the one playing aggressor and roughing Tito up in the early rounds. He does very well for the first 7 rounds, but eventually just starts to get over-powered and beaten on, being as he just couldn't keep it up at that stage of his career. He relied on his experience, caginess and toughness in that one, without the benefit of his quickness and reflexes.

    Re-watch the first half of the fight, he's straight fighting Tito, mixing it up with the jab at mid-range as well, and he's the one forcing Tito back.
     
  13. teeto

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    Your right here about Spinks , but Sweetpea ? Madness
     
  14. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    The majority of Tito's fights at 147lbs he basically back stepped and circled his opponents because hes 5'11 and was usually the bigger man. But I know what your saying. Pretty much, the Tito vs Whitaker fight was ugly, and just unpleasing to watch.
     
  15. bxrfan

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    Wasn't the reason he backed off against Tito is because he got his jaw broken in the sixth round or something?