You guys think Hopkins will ATTACK Dawson straight off?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What you reckon the chances are?
     
  2. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    15% id says, wouldn't rule it out. Hopkins is one of the most disciplined fighters in the ring but I do remember he did rush at RJJ in their disasterous rematch after he got pissed about those rabbit punches.

    EDIT: By 'jump' I hope you mean will Hopkins start off very aggressive and not implying some sort literal jump :huh
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As in a rodeo and ride him?
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    He tried last time out, and we all know how that went down :yep
     
  5. T.S.

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    Chances slim. Wouldn't want to chance throwing his backout or pop something out of socket :!: I do think there's a good chance will see him crawling around the canvas trying to adjust his cup for a couple of rounds. Dawson by TKO :hat
     
  6. McGrain

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    The thing is, Hopkins did look uncomfortable for those two rounds. What he's got to solve are the following

    1 - Circling. He was circling to wide, partly because of Dawson's size, partly, i think, because of the southpaw style, just caused him to mis-direct his movements a wee bit, make him busier with his feet than he wanted to be. He needs to circle more tightly and protect his distance.

    2 - The uppercut. Dawson didnt use it much but that sneaky wee uppercut on the inside was working for Chad. You only need one punch if it's the right one. I feel bad for Dawson that he didn't get to work with this punch for the entire fight - I wonder what Hopkins will have in store?

    3 - Feints. Dawson ain't ****ed. He just maintained a good distance and remained respectful. So Dawson is only going to be made to reset by actual offence. Inconvenient for a 47 year old man.

    4 - Workrate. Dawson wasn't busy but he did throw more punches than Hopkins liked. He threw where some opponents just didn't, discouraged. Of course, they have to become discouraged and Hopkins didn't get time to work on it.


    That's a fair bit against an opponent who is bigger, younger, faster. Attacking early wipes this slate clean, basically, but for the uppercut. Hopkins can neutralise that punch for sure. What I'm saying is, attacking early makes for a quick start in more ways than one.

    Attack early and see what comes out the other end. Obviously he's got 1-3 rounds only where this can work.
     
  7. MAG1965

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    he won't jump on him. Hopkins wants to land his lead rights and get a possible flash knockdown on Chad and then get Chad on the defensive and win rounds with counterpunching.
     
  8. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I reckon one of the most important keys to victory for Hopkins is to make Dawson fight at a slower pace - so no.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Jumping on him would make him fight at a slower pace.

    Dawson ran the two rounds they met in. Hopkins can't allow that.

    Look, you're right, Hopkins can't fight 12 rounds like this - obviously. But if by fighting hard for 6-7.30 minutes and establish certain things, that's good economy, if those things allow him to control the pace of the fight.

    The other option is to counter the sizeable list I made above against a faster, younger etc etc.
     
  10. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe - it would surprise me if he did so, but you never know. I still believe the key is for Bhop to survive early, put in bodyshots and then start to steal rounds from round 5 onwards. But surprises happen.
     
  11. McGrain

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    It would surprise me too in fairness. But I honestly think it's the best solution he has available. I'm sure he'll pull something out the hat, whatever it is.
     
  12. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    B-Hop has nothing to upset Dawson with. No punch or move that Dawson won't see coming from the middle of last week. If Bernard does get through he'll come back right away and throw and three of four combo, with maybe only one punch landing, but it will hold more sway with the judges than Hopkin's ugly right.

    It will be like the Taylor fights. Everybody waiting for Hopkins to pull a rabbit out of the hat but as the rounds tick on, and Dawson with the proverbial cigar in his mouth - stepping forward with the jab and staying out of range at the same time - and piling up the rounds. B-Hop will realise attempting any genuine offence will lead to possibility of shipping substantial damage, so he'll back off and accept his fate.

    At the end and as the bell rings he'll have a big grin on his face to somewhat jokingly give off the impression he's won the fight, when deep down he'll know he's lost it by a UD
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Jump on, like climb his back again? :lol::lol:
     
  14. McGrain

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    I don't think that Hopkins "accepted his fate" against Taylor. IN fact, I think he boxed him to a decision twice.
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you are pretty much spot on...been doing a bit of homework on it haven't you?....I don't think Hopkins will jump on anything against a younger, bigger, stronger, faster etc etc opponent...I think your first point holds the key in Hopkins being able to slow down the pace better. Hopkins will fight much better according to the pace being slower...a combination of circling tighter, crowding, and spoiling will give Dawson some pause tonight I think...Hopkins can nullify some of that reach and speed that way. If Dawson tries one punch repeatedly with without variation like that uppercut...and he looks somewhat programmed at times (albeit super talented) he will be countered. The safe pick...the logical pick is Dawson. But put me down for Hopkins...Sure completely sold on Dawson remaining focused enough to pressure Hopkins for 12 rounds. And if he doesn't pressure Hopkins like he did in that abbreviated first fight, he won't do as well...Hopkins UD.