You guys with the weight

Mosley is available just to clarify the point, however as I stated in another post the shared history between JMM & MP makes the JMM fight the one to make from a marketing standpoint, competitive boxing be damned.

 

to all floyd fans were we not aall dissing oscar when he decided to fight the smaller pac. because its floyd so its ok. give me a break. a catchweight would have been a bit fairer.

 

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Mosley turned down the fight in Feb. :deal

 

You would complain if Floyd moved down to 135.

 

Weight may not be a big deal with you, but it probably is so with many other experts.

There must be a real good reason all these inter-divisions were created. Boxing experts probably figured out that too much of a mismatch for very few weight classes. Not that smaller mguys always lost, just that probably their stats showed it. You must be a boxing expert, why don't you lecture us on history of boxing on why these sub-divisions were created.

 

If we are talking about the same February, 2006 (toothache turndown) when Oscar was moving to setup his match with PBF (which did happen) then yes you are correct. However that has no bearing on the fact that Mosley is now a viable and legitimate welterweight option (even more so than in 2006 based on his fight with Margarito) in 2009.

In otherwords, welcome to 2009 I hope you enjoyed your stay in the past. :yep

 

I would complain if Floyd moved to 135... he has no business fighting there. :deal

 

No. Even though thats true.

Mosley turned down a fight in Feb of 2009.

Welcome to 2009.

 

If this is true then I stand corrected but I distinctly remember Mosley (even before the Margarito fight but definitely afterwords (that was January)) opening saying that if Floyd where to come out of retirement he would love that fight.

There were even interviews in March where Mosley mentioned that he had discussions with Floyd about his comeback and Floyd made it clear he wasn't interested in a match right now but possibly down the road.

Again.. I'm not certain what 2009 you are referring to but the one I was living in that was the truth. :deal

 

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/4977/2009-02-27/Mayweather-Wants-$20-Million-For-Pacquiao-Mosley-Bouts

He wanted 20 million to come straight out of retirement to fight the two best fighters. And they turned it down.

20 million could of been made there, for whatever reason, it was turned down

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_mannix/02/12/shane.mosley/

See the above article in regards to PBF turning down the matchup not Mosley.

Again there is always two sides to the story.

 

He probably declined an 8 million dollar payday and countered and was declined.

 

Again it is unclear and undocumented what actually happened in the negotiations. Only thing known is that PBF wanted $20 Million guarantee which made the matchup unreasonable from a financial standpoint. Mosley certainly didn't turn down a matchup with PBF (in fact he wanted it) but due to the financial demands put up by PBF's team the fight couldn't be made.

In other words it is not being truthful to flat out say Mosley turned down PBF when PBF didn't make the fight a viable option.

Any other numbers are just conjecture and what it really says is that PBF wasn't serious but rather testing the waters for his comeback (get his name out there again).

Certainly since this 'offer' was extended to Pacquiao's team as well they certainly also didn't 'turn down the fight'.

This brings me back to my original point that was the only real offer extended to Mosley was the one in 2006 which I'm sure PBF knew wasn't going to happen as the Oscar fight was already in the works.