You guys would eviscerate GGG for KO'ing Trinidad and DLH

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  1. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    De La Hoya and Trinidad were both tall for their Welterweights. 5'10" isn't a bad Middleweight height.

    But they were naturally very skinny and fragile guys. Their frames were not meant for the Middleweight division. Which is why they weren't nearly as good at 160 pounds.
     
  2. IsaL

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    :deal:deal:deal

    Correct. Roy Jones Jr. was even at the fight sitting ringside, and the buzz was that Tito was going to fight Jones once he disposed of Hopkins.
     
  3. scarecrow

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    This is why I love using retrospect. It was thought Trinidad would carry his power to 160 and that given his 5'11" frame he wouldn't be undersized.

    But he was NOT BUILT FOR 160 POUNDS. He's too skinny.

    Hopkins was simply too big for Tito. It wasn't a fair fight.
     
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    Actually, yeah we do.

    Bumlovkin struggles with slick Southpaws and guys who can fight on the inside. This is why they want no parts of Erislandy Lara...


    Bumlovkin has never faced a fighter the caliber of de la Hoya or Trinidad. NEVER. I would suggest that, stylistically, a guy like Bumlovkin is tailor made for both Trinidad and de la Hoya.


    Then YDKSAB. Alvarez ain't beating Tito. Not @ 154, 160 or any weight in between. Tito was WAY to sharp and holds just about every advantage over Canelo. Trinidad puts a beating on Alvarez.


    LOL. Bumlovkin would first need to get past de la Hoya's jab.

    Ain't happening...


    More evidence that YDKSAB..

    Trinidad @ 160 is the same size as Bumlovkin.
     
  7. IsaL

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    Some perspective

    Golovkin-Canelo (about the same)

    https://blog-blogmediainc.netdna-ss...com/117151/0828545001449255919_filepicker.jpg

    DLH-Canelo (DLH bigger)

    http://image.dailynews.com/storyima...09703/AR/0/AR-160509703.jpg&maxh=400&maxw=667

    Tito-DLH (Tito bigger)

    http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/51...vO44l7jUCOu21N4whR8gOsgKrtIfYKcPx5EgTNm2JY6p/
     
  8. TJ Max

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    So, exactly WHO has Bumlovkin beaten that approaches the quality of fighter that Tito Trinidad was?
     
  10. scarecrow

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    If Trinidad wasn't a real middleweight then why was HOPKINS the one fighting off of the back foot during their fight?

    If Trinidad wasn't a real middleweight then neither were Hagler or Robinson - guys who were physically smaller than Tito Trinidad...
     
  12. ElCyclon

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    DLH lost to Sturm IMO but it was obvious he did not train properly or at all for that fight. He looked way out of shape. He probably took the fight for granted and just assumed he was going to easily outbox him and move on to Hopkins.
     
  13. IsaL

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    :deal

    For starters, both ODLH and Tito are taller, and have longer reach than Golovkin.

    Tito and DLHs skill level is superior to Golovkin's.

    Tito and DLHs experience is superior to Golovkin's.

    All we know about Golovkin is that he can club to death all his C level opponents.

    The ONLY thing that Golovkin does better than Tito and ODLH is win Fantasy matchups made by his Golovstans.

    According to Golovstans GGG beats:

    Canelo, Ward, Tito, ODLH, Hopkins, Hagler, Leonard, Hearns, Duran.

    Yet his most formible opponent is the Great Lemieux :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  14. TJ Max

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    Who did GGG struggle with? Do you have any evidence?

    You don't know much about boxing, do you?

    Oscar has a decent jab, but it's no where near the level of a jab like Bernard Hopkin's for instance.

    The jab is not just a punch. It's the way you punch. You wouldn't understand because you don't really know anything about boxing.

    Oscar just doesn't have the right technique to beat GGG. His legs would possibly save him a few rounds, but eventually GGG would bust up his body and take him out.

    Oscar just doesn't have the boxing ability to survive against GGG. The only guy that I can see beating GGG is Ward right now.

    Ward does have the boxing ability, plus he's quite a bit bigger than GGG.

    Trinidad would likely get stopped by GGG. Remember, GGG is a silver medalist and he showed his Olympic pedigree when he utilized his piston like jab against Lemieux.

    Lemieux at least gets low, and I thought he could have had an opportunity to perhaps get underneath GGG's punches, but GGG's jab proved too much an obstacle to get past.

    Trinidad, stylistically, would get chopped apart by GGG. He has a puncher's chance, but I just don't see him capitalizing. If I were to bet, I would bet on GGG.

    Canelo has the style to beat Trinidad. You clearly don't understand anything about boxing. You must suck a lot of ****. Canelo actually has great defense and is an excellent counterpuncher. Trinidad would have a hell of a time coming in on Canelo, who would deliver counter after counter.

    Don't get me wrong, Canelo is a pretty boy, so it wouldn't be easy, and I suppose Trinidad could eventually walk him down, but I think Canelo certainly has the style to beat Trinidad.

    Oscar has a good chance against Canelo because similarly to Khan, he would use foot movement and combinations, in addition to his height advantage to run around the ring and deliver combinations.

    Canelo is not as adept at cutting off the ring as GGG. This would be his downfall against Oscar. But to go right at Canelo is a very tough proposition. He eats people alive who come right at him.
     
  15. scarecrow

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    Hagler is a real Middleweight dumbass. He'd have to cut of a leg to make 147.

    Look at the size of his legs. They're trees. Hagler was one stocky, muscular dude. 5'8" of pure tank.