"You have no evidence that Khan has a china chin..."

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Jul 14, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I have no respect to combatants?:lol:

    Because I don't respect china chinned Khan?

    How do you know that I would be taken down by Limond, a man half my size from a singular combination when you know little about my physicality, experience with combat sports in general?

    Khan is the definition of a horrid hype job and I would not be called Ray china chinned, Ray proved time and time again even early in his career that he was one durable guy. You are REACHING for whatever you can and when the kid's sparked finally and the hype is over, what is there left to say?

    And I absolutely did not say Judah wouldn't last a few rounds with Cotto, in fact, I said Judah had a damn good chance of winning that fight and that he was tougher than given credit for, so you have me mixed up with someone else.

    So I'm a disgrace to the sport, despite supporting it 100%, supporting true fighters 100% and supporting changes that would strengthen it for it to grow bigger like it was in the glory days. As well as the immense amount of respect that I provide for most fighters. Hype jobs and promotional scum are the elements that I DESPISE, Khan embodies BOTH.

    Wake up, grow up, lighten up, whatever, but damn you are testy for me calling out facts and you know damn well that I am 100% correct on this issue and that Zak was 100% correct on that piece of **** Fraudley Harrison, whom was a disgrace to the sport and a disgrace to Britain in the end.

    If you aren't convinced that Khan and the hype train is a joke, YOU NEVER WILL BE. So don't call on my boxing knowledge, my stance on the sport and my personal beliefs while putting false accusations at the front of the table under a complete incorrect assessment filled with disrespect just because YOU don't agree with me and are STILL BLINDED by this ****ing disgrace Amir Khan.

    I am shocked that you are still supporting this fraud, most others have conceeded into submission that it's OVER.:scaredas: :scaredas: :scaredas:
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Guys, this is getting a bit overly heated! Khan is a product (victim?) of the British obsession with celebrity culture. His minders have taken advantage of his Cinderella-like story to the MAX. Nobody can deny that. This is why they have done their outmost to turn him into a national hero figure who cannot do wrong. The media asked for it. They were glad to oblige. But they overhyped his skill and talent. This happens sometimes in Britain. Remember Tim Henman? All this is unfortunate. But what I disaprove of is the fact that Khan himself has more than played along - he has started to believe the hype himself and started to act arrogantly. Ultimately this will bring him down, once the media decide to round on him, as they eventually round on all the heroes they have helped lift too close to the sun.

    Real fans and friends of Khan would advise him to keep his chin down:lol: and his feet on the ground, and to talk with modesty and dignity and respect for his opponents and peers.
     
  3. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the votes have been counted and verified and i can confirm that amsterdam was right. :yep
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Of course, you don't respect an Olympian, you don't respect someone trying to make it in the pros and you don't respect the heart Khan showed.

    It has little to do with your size. The fact that you think by being 12st you would somehow withstand 5 full bloodied shots by a man who is about 2st lighter than you is just the beginning of your stupidity. I know you are not a pro boxer, nor are you a fully fledged amateur and that is that. I also can't overlook your total lack of disrespect towards Khan and other boxers. Someone with impressive experience would not ooze of **** and disrespect like you do.

    I'm sure you said Judah was getting sparked in three rounds. Maybe I got it wrong.

    Of course you are bad for the sport. You come across as a boxers fan rather than a boxing fan. Khan is good for the game but instead you would like him to fail. This only hurts boxing.

    You have been on Khans back for ages, it has slowly stirred me up. It is absolutely pathetic. Once upon a time I thought you were a good poster but you aren't, you must be a fanboy. It is all rooted in your lack of respect for fighters.

    What is laughable is something you GUESSED didn't even happen. Khan wasn't flattened. However you feel vindicated and throughtout your posts it appears you think you have done something prophetic. It would be wise than you calm down and learn some respect. Credit Khan for his courage. You should be saying something like 'I was right but Khan has won me over'.

    Even the Harrison thing isn't amazing. Harrison took a huge shot from Williams and got up but yet no credit! Harrisons chin was left out to dry, while punching and got caught with something HUGE!

    You have no proof of Khan being a hype job. Yes, he is being marketed but what sort of moron would you be not to expect that. That is life, Khan is a product.

    I disagree with you that Khans chin is the pit of chins. I have said Khans chin clearly isn't legendary, however I respect how he fought back.

    You are shocked that I respect and even support someone who is good for the game?! Of course you would because you are a fanboy who has not justification for his thoughts other than hatred.
     
  5. Top Dog

    Top Dog Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amsterdam, you are indeed a disgrace to the sport, because you have the cheek to slag off our saviour of british boxing, how dare you:twisted: Eh, hold on a minute, so did I:lol: Oh, never mind we can both be a disgrace to the sport, but at least we were right when we said he was a hype job:thumbsup
    Forget his joker mate, his tongue has tasted Amirs arse, and he's looking for a second lick:lol: :D :D
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is little doubt Khan's overall chin-defence combination is fairly vunerable.
     
  7. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Khan's chin might not be total china but just shaky as he wasn't out cold and was ok as soon as he got back up to complain to the ref saying It was a push.

    Khan's defence needs work though, he won that on pure handspeed. If his defence Improved he can protect his chin enough to be sucessful.

    The hype around him Is cheesy though but that happens with Olympians.
     
  8. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

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    His problem is that in moments during the fight he left his chin in the air. It is definately something he can work on and he must work on if he ever hopes to fullfill the hopes he has. I am pretty sure though that if he gets hit again, that chin in the air or not, he will taste canvas. His handlers clearly know this is a weakness, hence the opposition he has faced has had very low KO %'s.

    He did come back well from the knockdown and that should be applauded.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I'm done with arguing you, this is going to get us both nowhere and we'll continue with this for 10 pages and still be at no result.

    The fact remains that my assessment of Limond being of journeyman quality in the LW division is absolutely correct, a commonly considered journeyman/gate keeper at LW, Miguel Huerta, whom I greatly respect would smoke Limond in 5 rounds or less. You don't want to recognise that Limond's 28-2 record wouldn't be that nice looking if he was fighting internationally and not domestically, I am judging him on his SKILL/INTANGIBLE level that I have seen from the few fights that I've viewed and while he's got good fundamentals, he's about journeyman level on the World scene and feather fisted variant at that.

    And you don't know anything about me, never did I claim that just because I'm 12 st. that Limond couldn't KO me, I was claiming that I am 12 st. and have taken harder blows than that of Limond within combat sport, namely Martial Arts training and competition. So if you wan't to claim that a gloved shot from Willie Limond at 135 pounds is superior to a kick to the face by a 180 pound man, then so be it.

    And by the way, I have perfect respect to combatants from all combat sports, just not hype jobs and other disgraces. I give respect to a multitude of fighters that TRUE HATERS slash on frequently and put things into respect.

    Just because Khan's dick is in your mouth and that I brutally detest the Khan hype job train, is NO indication that I am disrespectful to the majority of combatants.

    So keep overrating your domestic crop and your Olympic results, I'll stay in relevance to international WORLD CLASS PROFESSIONAL BOXING and keep comparing things like any fan of anything is going to judge top level athletes.

    This is the last thing I'll say to you on this subject, you need to grow up Achilles, I definitley was under the impression that you were better than this, but one's true colours come out when the heat is on.:yep :good
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Generally he's a good poster, guess this just hit a real soft spot with him. Either way, he's out of my realm of respect, it's one thing to differ in opinion and another to take things so personally that it becomes a pissing contest instead of a reasonable debate.

    What's funny, is that I even talk to IronBull every now and then on MSN and he and I have gotten along well on there, despite him knowing that I despise Khan.

    The irony is that he realises that this is all just relevant to my Political beliefs, I actually give Khan fair credit for his amatuer accomplishments, IronBull knows that I don't support public exploitation and that this what I see Khan as.

    If there was no insane hype and exploitative marketing and execution surrounding Amir, I really wouldn't even give any of this a second look.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why do you hold the exploitation against Khan, surely he is just a puppet in it all who has been fooled into believing his own hype -questionmark-
     
  12. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    congrats amterdam

    very sad but the first thought after that punch landed was "****, amsterdam's gonna have a field day with this!"

    although khan went down, i'm actually kind of glad he still didn't lose, just because it means there'll be at least another 5 shows on ITV, and there might be the odd half-decent undercard.

    well done limond though for almost getting the job done.
     
  13. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Given that your keyboard refuses to comply with you, your principled stance against emoticons seems even more worthy of perplexed admiration! :yep
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Looks like September/October for Ajose. I doubt Warren would let Khan get in with Ajose as that would be a suicide mission.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Realistically, I don't hold that against Khan, but I hold Khan's attitude as an arrogant, immature little twat against him and that coincides with the exploitation in full.

    I hold the unrestrained Capitalist media, the promotional germs and the idiotic public in fault for the exploitation, quite a trifecta.