You have to laugh at this Ray Hatton character

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  1. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton's father Ray says his son's latest opponent, Juan Lazcano, is a far tougher opponent than he is being given credit for.
    The 33-year-old Mexican will fight Hatton at the City of Manchester Stadium on Saturday.
    "He does come to fight. He's very dangerous," the Manchester boxer's father told BBC Radio Merseyside:
    "A lot of the (American) pundits think that for his comeback fight he (Hatton) has picked too hard an opponent."
    The Lazcano fight is Hatton's first since suffering the first defeat of his professional career to Floyd Mayweather last December.
    His father says he would like the chance to avenge that tenth round knock-out.
    "It is a possibility, they're (the Mayweather camp) very, very keen on it.
    "Ricky has always said he would prefer to fight Floyd Mayweather again, on an even playing-field.
    "If Mayweather beat him he would have to hold his hands up and say the better guy beat me."
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    Ray Hatton

    Any rematch would be likely to take place at Welterweight although Hatton is a natural Light-Welterweight.
    The Mancunian has struggled in his previous two fights at the heavier weight, labouring to victory over Luis Collazo and losing to Mayweather.
    "You wouldn't get Floyd to come down any less than 147," added Ray Hatton. "I think Floyd would say I'm the Champion at 147 and if you want me again, you're going to have to come up to me. I'm not going to come down to you."

    :patsch

    yeah a level playing field, like the Tszyu fight, right.
    all Cortez did was enforce the rules of boxing. What is wrong with these people?
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    We've done this one. Fat Joe found this alarming interview before you or Scurla...;)

    I would ask though, if Cortez was just enforcing the rules on holding and hitting, WFT was he doing in the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight? No consistancy at all there.
     
  3. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you'll find he kept breaking the clinches in that fight too
     
  4. TFFP

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    Cortez just seems to have contracted blatant American bias in his old age. Guy needs to retire.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Oh, come on!! He wasn't on Hoplins' case to anywhere near the same degree, the ref didn't change the outcome of Mayweather-Hatton but, lets put it this way, I wouldn't want him reffing a Brit vs a Yank again. He played the homer in both fights.
     
  6. Strike

    Strike Boxing Addict banned

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    Anyone who thinks Cortez simply enfored the rules in the first 5 rounds needs to do the world a favour and take an overdose.

    Just to be clear...

    - Hatton would have lost regardless.

    - PBF is by FAR the better boxer.

    - I predicted a PBF late TKO.

    - Hatton will lose any rematch regardless.

    But Cortez was a total disgrace. He broke up clinches that had not even began. And people who have just joined the sport and seem to think they know it all because they can name 5 fighters pre 1990 should go and watch old boxing. Whether it be Dempsey or Ali, or Duran or Hagler....look to recent years with Chavez or Hopkins, or in so called ATG fights like Gatti-Ward etc etc...

    People clinch. You fight out of the clinch. If it is blatant holding and nothing more it is split. But a 2-3 second clinch is normal in the sport since any recording began. Inside strength and tying up followed by in fighting is something all the big lauded names on here did, and yet 95% of posters appear not to have ever seen even major fights like the Thrilla in Manila...yeah watch that and imagine Cortez as the ref.

    The guy was a farce and even those clowns on Youtube who HATE Hatton (I forget their names, 2 wannabe pundits) were stunned by Cortez.

    The guy should never ref again.
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Great post Strike.
     
  8. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cortez is as bent as a butcher's hook.
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched Bowe/Holyfield I the other day and it's funny to see how much Cortez has changed his appreach. In that fight, he let both guys work their way out of the clinch every time. Actually, I think he did the same for Castillo/Hatton, too. He's done an awful job in some other recent fights too, so I don't know what's going on with him. He was a top quality referee.

    Apply his refeering skills to some fighters throughout history. Roberto Duran, Henry Armstrong, Jake LaMotta, Muhammad Ali amonsgt many, many others. Clinching is part of the game and boxers should be able to utilise it.

    Some Hatton fights have been disgraceful for clinching and I imagine Cortez thought about that and the magnitude of the fight. He probably didn't want a stinker in one of boxing biggest fights. Right idea, but he went over the top with the way he enforced it. As a result, Hatton was not allowed to fight his fight.

    I don't take anything away from Mayweather, though. As the fight progressed he was doing better in the clinch than Hatton was, so it didn't help him entirely either. However, it has to be said that Cortez did do a very poor job.

    If they do fight again, maybe someone like Tony Weeks or Steve Smoger would allow it to be a closer fight.
     
  10. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Strike is right, in the PBF-Hatton fight Cortez was breaking clinches before they had begun. In the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight he broke them after they had begun which is what he should have done in the Hatton fight.
     
  11. TFFP

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    That was the thing that completely gave away his bias for me. It was like preemptive clinch breaking.
     
  12. Mikey

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    The statement is bold made me laugh rigt away, that was a straight up lie, no one can deny this.
     
  13. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    He was breaking the fighters when they got in close, before the clinch. Re-watch the fight.
     
  14. JonOli

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    Lazcano is a top ten ring magazine contender. The bookies regard him as a tougher proposition then Bradley was for Witter.

    Lazcano certainly isn't a great oponent, but neither is he totally shite.


    Ray Hatton is Ricky Hattons manager and promoter by the way, he is paid to promote his boxer.*shock*
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He defiantly changed the way he reffed the fight, there is not question about that. For whatever thats worth...

    The thing is ricky wasnt winning on the inside or the outside.

    When you have a considerably shorter reach then your oponent though, it must be frustrating to be continuently pulled away when you attempt to get close, in range to get a shot off, and before you even clinch.

    Unless something changes drastically, Floyd still wins every time though.