You know what's the saddest part about Floyd Mayweather's career?

:rofl :rofl

So Margarito losing to Williams and Santos is not excuseable but it's ok for DLH to lose to guys his own size and turn out gift decisions as well. Hilarious ****, moron.

You destroyed nobody. You only work off of your imagination. Facts are facts and when this is all said and done you joyboys are gonna be on a small island in the middle of the twilight zone. You lose more faithful everyday.

Margarito is a better welterweight than Floyd Mayweather. How does that burn in your gut? :rofl

 

When did I ever say that?

Once again, you're using conjecture instead of EVIDENCE.

 

Actually I destroyed you with facts that were backed up by evidence. You on the other hand have yet to provide anything meaningful and haven't backed up a single argument with a shred of evidence.

Once again because I know you're not very educated: EVIDENCE > conjecture

 

Facts are indeed facts. Unfortunately for you, you have yet to provide any facts. Only your biased conjecture.

 

Floyd did duck Margarito, you blind nuthugger.

I would bring up page after page of evidence, but I'll get banned.

If you really want it though, just say so, and I'll bring it.

Then if you don't believe that Floyd ducked him, your dick must get hard when you see the mother ****er cuz you're gay as ****.

 

It's a typical joyboy argument. If I have mistaken you for a joyboy I'm sorry. It's obviously more realistic to see you are just a nobody. My mistake.

But that doesn't change the fact that DLH feasted on lightweights.

And I see you have still failed to recognize the difference between hindsight and foresight. Get to work on that. Someday junior, someday.

 

You're welcome to counter my evidence with your own. I have yet to see anybody offer anything other than insults.

Where is your evidence then? According to Bob Arum he didn't want to pay Floyd $10 million for Cotto and Hatton and so the deal fell through.

You have a better source than Margarito's promoter? I'm waiting....

Banned for bringing up evidence? I don't think so... perhaps you just don't have any? Obviously not considering you started your response with an insult instead of just countering my argument with your own evidence.

Nobody has brought up a single shred of evidence to counter my own.

 

I destroyed your hindsight vs foresight argument as well. Read the thread slowly and carefully. It is obvious your english comprehension is not up to par. English your second language? That would help explain things.

You have the intelligence of a 6 year old when it comes to a debate.

 

I'm waiting........I picture you standing around like a ***** with a limp wrist.

Anyway, I'll get you your ****.

Just give me a second.

 

Pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out and become a promotional free agent, Arum told ESPN.com on Monday.

According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

"I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."

Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.

"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.

"We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."

With Aug. 12 no longer set aside for a Mayweather fight, Arum said he will use the date to feature one of his other stars, heavyweight titlist Hasim Rahman, in a mandatory title defense against Oleg Maskaev on HBO PPV.

That bout, a rematch of Maskaev's 1999 knockout victory, took on greater significance last weekend in the wake of Wladimir Klitschko's title-winning knockout of Chris Byrd in Germany.

The reason: Among the four recognized heavyweight title holders, Klitschko became the third from a former Soviet republic to beat an American to win a belt, leaving Rahman as the lone American heavyweight champion and Maskaev poised to give Eastern Europe a sweep of the titles in boxing's marquee division.

Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

Instead, Arum is turning his attention to the Rahman-Maskaev fight.

Arum said that he and Maskaev representative Dennis Rappaport are about $300,000 apart on making a deal. If they don't finalize terms, the WBC will hold a purse bid May 1 in Mexico City.

But Arum is confident they will make the deal.

"We're very close," he said. "It will take another day to work it out."

Arum said he is already making arrangements to announce the fight at a news conference in New York on May 10. He added that the fight would take place at either Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., or at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas.

Arum said Margarito could wind up on the Rahman-Maskaev card in the co-feature.

"But it's tentative," Arum said. "If Mayweather decides to fight in September or October, and Margarito could still be a candidate, I want him to be flexible."

Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.

 

Resorting to insults... how about having a real intelligent debate instead of trying to argue like a little school girl.

 

Twenty-odd million reasons to pass up $8 million
By Kevin Iole
MaxBoxing.com
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Updated: April 27, 2006
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LAS VEGAS -- You know they already have the name picked out. Site, too.

It will be "A Pretty Golden Night" when the "Pretty Boy," Floyd Mayweather Jr., takes on the "Golden Boy," Oscar De La Hoya, sometime later this year in Las Vegas with about $55 million or so to be divvied up between the two.


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Coming off his latest victory over Zab Judah (right) on April 8, Mayweather sees bigger dollars than what promoter Bob Arum is willing to offer.

Or at least I imagine that Mayweather is on his knees at night praying it turns out that way.

Mayweather's announcement the other day that he had bought his way out of his contract with promoter Bob Arum for three-quarters of a million caused a lot of raised eyebrows and "I told you sos."

But it was a fairly simple move to understand. Mayweather figures to make around $23 million, or about what he's made up to this point in a career in which he's punched his way to the top, if De La Hoya signs on the dotted line.

When someone offers you $23 million for a night of work, which is more than you've made in a lifetime of work doing the same thing, you don't think hard. You sign and then you find someone to protect the other guy to make sure nothing happens to him to scuttle the fight.

Simple, really.

Of course, this is boxing and in boxing, nothing is that simple. De La Hoya is no guarantee to get past Ricardo Mayorga in 10 days. If Mayorga bronzes the Golden Boy, Mayweather can forget that house next to Tiger Woods he's had his eye on.

And Arum is doing some of the best work of his career to muddy the waters.

Arum took the $750,000 from Mayweather to avoid being in the way if De La Hoya came calling.

Arum gets along with De La Hoya the way colors do with Clorox. I swear, Arum would prefer to see a De La Hoya fight lose millions rather than make millions from a fight of his own.

But Arum is smart enough to know that, no matter what they say, a Mayweather-De La Hoya bout is unlikely.

And Arum has nowhere else to go to get the big money that Antonio Margarito is starting to demand. Arum, you see, needs Floyd Mayweather if he's ever going to do anything with Margarito.

You didn't think Margarito-Zab Judah would be big business, did you?

OK.

Now, there is this growing groundswell of support, fueled largely by Arum, that Margarito will be the guy who finally wipes the smile off of Pretty Boy's face.

Joe Frazier did it to Muhammad Ali. Roberto Duran did it to Ray Leonard.

And, so the thinking goes, Margarito can do it to Mayweather.

Of course, there is a large gap in that thinking. Margarito is a good, professional fighter whose style matches well with Mayweather's. The way to beat Mayweather is to back him up, rough him up and stay closer to him than Evander Holyfield is to Edyta Sliwinska on "Dancing with the Stars."

And Margarito is a guy who can back you up, rough you up and hurt you badly when he gets you within range.

Making the game plan to beat Mayweather is the easy part, though. Carrying it out is where it starts to get a little more challenging. That's about as easy as changing the oil of Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s car as he's doing 150 around a turn at Daytona.

Mayweather's hand is still tender from pounding it atop Judah's head every five seconds or so when they met on April 8.

It's not bad enough that he wouldn't say yes aboutthisdamnfast if De La Hoya stuck a contract in his face this afternoon, but it's sore enough that it will make him wait before saying yes to anyone else.

Nobody ever accused Mayweather of being a Harvard graduate, but he might lose his boxing license on the grounds of insanity if he accepted $8 million for a tougher fight rather than waiting 10 days or so to see if he gets $23 million for an easier one.

Have no doubt, Margarito would be a handful for Mayweather, though Mayweather's speed, defensive wizardry and instincts would turn the fight his way in the second half.

There is no doubt of this:

Margarito would be a tougher fight for Mayweather than De La Hoya.

And there is no doubt of this:

A De La Hoya fight would pay Mayweather a lot better than a Margarito fight.

This is also true:

If De La Hoya is washed up, as some are beginning to whisper loudly, Mayorga will whip him. And that would instantly make a Mayweather-Mayorga match more lucrative than a Mayweather-Margarito bout.

Mayweather has finally gotten to the point where he's the guy everyone else wants to fight. Except De La Hoya.

And when you're in that position, they always write you checks with enough zeroes to dry out the ink on your fountain pen.

So it makes sense to wait 10 days and gamble $750,000 that you'll get that $23 million payday.

Even if you don't and have to settle for $8 million, well, that's not a bad fallback plan. At least you can pay the grocery bills with that.

 

Margarito did his part at 147, yet 5 different divisions for Mayweather is not enough? atsch

 

Giving Mayweather 10 million for Hatton and Cotto doesn't work out like giving him 8 for Margarito. Where is your common sense?

Margarito was accepting PEANUTS for that fight, you clown. Do you even understand how purse splits work? Who is to say Hatton and Cotto would have taken a similar amount of money? You? You don't know as much as you think you do, junior.

And lets not forget the real ballbuster. 20 million for DLH. :rofl Arum is gonna give Mayweather the same deal against two other purse hungry opponents, and then get on his knees and go beg DLH for a fight? At 20 million no less.

It didn't seem ridiculous after 2007 but in 2006 it was VERY ridiculous.

Now, tell me how hindsight and foresight work again. I believe you are still confused.

 

Thank you for backing up my own argument you fool. HAHAHHA


Man, you people need to learn how to read and comprehend english.

"Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million."

How much did Floyd make when he fought Hatton? Seems to me asking for $10 million was a reasonable offer.



""That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road." "

So because Arum didn't feel Floyd could generate that type of money and decided not to deal with him... Floyd is ducking? Seems to me Arum made a poor business decision. Floyd made over $20 million against Oscar... Arum was wrong.



You used the evidence I used to show that he didn't duck Margarito and somehow act like that proves he ducked hi. You need to take an english class and learn to read properly, seriously.

Fact is, if Bob Arum would have manned up and gave Floyd the money he was asking for, you crybabies would have the fights you wanted.