You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Primenal, Dec 27, 2008.


  1. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't want to rain down on peoples sports here, but I hear this a lot "If a boxer fights MMA the boxer will lose, and if the MMA fighter fights a boxing match he'll lose." You guys seriously believe this is the case...After watching something like tonight?
    I watched the card, and don't watch a lot of UFC, but enough to understand *some* matches are good/ exciting, and others are 2 dudes rolling around wtih eachother. So, since I'm a boxing fan, and like action I like to watch standup fights. Tonight gave me what I wanted, but tonight also told me a lot about boxer vs MMA fighter...
    Here's my problem......These MMA fighters CANNOT take a damn punch! OMG!!! If these guys were in Pro boxing you'd hear nothing except about how they have a glass chin!!!!!!
    Let me put it in retrospect...You got MMA fighers who wear 4 oz gloves, and easily knock eachother out/ down with one good punch. You got Pro boxers whom are wearing 8 oz gloves (4 oz more), you don't see many KD's/ KO's in many fights where they have 2 superior boxers, blood running down there faces, black eyes, knots, eyes closing for 12 rounds (they may land 15-30 CLEAN punches) and yet...Most still don't go down/ give up.
    Let's compare Arturro Gatti vs Ward fights, and then compare the main event tonight Griffen/ Evans. Gatti/ Ward fights were physichal WARS! Griffin/ Evans: You had Griffin staying back, firing, winning the fight using his height. He goes down, and Evans throws some punches at his face, and it's all over. Kidding me? What kind of fighting spirit is that???

    So, again back to my point. My point is a good boxer can take LOADS more punishment than most MMA fighters. AND honestly I believe even with MMA rules a lot of boxers beat MMA fighters. Standup MMA fighters wouldn't stand a chance unless a lucky kick. Even if MMA fighter does a takedown natural instincts tells you to do a lot. I mean Vitali Klitshko vs Frank Mir at standup??? I'd venture to say Vitali/ Wladimir are way physichally stronger than him as well even if he takes them down.
    Again, not raining on anybodies sports, but these china chins get on my nerves, and it seems nobody sees this cept me.
     
  2. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Physically stronger means nothing. Watch UFC 1 and get back to us.
     
  3. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You cant say that.

    There two different sports.

    Just because there both combat sports you cant say anything until it was to happen.

    But could you see Lesnar vs Klitschko
    or anything like that.

    No Way.

    They would have to fight UFC rules first then they would have to fight Boxing rules aswell 3 months later to really find out.
     
  4. cryptic

    cryptic Active Member Full Member

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    i completely agree with the TS
     
  5. tri-pod

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    do you know how many boxers would get knocked out if they fought with the 7 ounce gloves instead?

    and an experienced boxer vs. an experienced mixed martial artist would probably win because the boxer isn't trained to take leg kicks elbows or knees. they wouldn't know what to do if they saw them coming.

    but in a boxing match. yes the boxer would win.

    the worst part about boxing is also the worst part about mma. the biased fans who try to put one over the other.

    two different sports.
     
  6. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This thread will soon degenerate into a slaging match
     
  7. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What you mean they wouldn't know what to do against leg kicks? These guys study there opponents for MONTHS! Pac vs De La Hoya...Pac knew exactly what he was going to do to De La Hoya for instance, and his gameplan went perfectly. It's because he STUIDED a tape, made his gameplan, and worked months to fights Oscar De La Hoya. If he were fighting Floyd mayweather it might be different.
    What I'm trying to say...Is a boxer would watch how the UFC fighter fights!! I'm no pro boxer, no pro trainer, and used to go to an MMA gym for a while, BUT I could watch one of these guys and tell you exactly my gameplan, and how I would deal with there kicks.
    You got better hands? you take a good punch? You can't kick ya say? Well, your ass needs to get on the inside, use your hands, beat him to the punch, and take his ass out! If he charges in to grab you DRILL him with a combo to stop him (including an uppercut would be nice).
    Of course nothing in life works out perfectly like you thought it would, but some of the matchups you could make MMA vs Pro boxing sound REDICULOUS!

    and as for the 7 oz glove question...You have somewhat of a point, but I don't believe to many fights would change. I mean chances are if you can take getting punched in the face say 20 times for say 12 rounds (220 times) I'm willing to bet your pretty used to getting HIT in general, and willing to bet you can take a punch.
    You mean to tell me you think Margarito could get bombs dropped on him from Cotto for 11 rounds with 8 oz gloves...Yet some 150 pound MMA fighter with limited boxing experience would knock his ass out with 4 oz gloves? That's another thing as well. It may sound biased, but doesn't it seem like some of these boxers posess more PHYSICHAL STRENGTH? Margarito fighting at 147...Looks like he weighs 170. I'm also willing to bet any *normal* 200 pound man would have have trouble handling him. SOme MMA fighters look like they'd be the same way (could handle a much larger man), but most (to me) do not.
     
  8. Tuffnutz

    Tuffnutz ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    UFC gloves are 4 ounce not 7.
     
  9. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha, I know! I'm not trying to flame MMA...I mean I actually watched the PPV tonight, and enjoy some of it. I just can't beleive how hard some of guys train, and they gotta be in good shape...How easily some just give up, or just get KTFO cold! Again, that isn't saying boxing is that much better cuz some people give up, and some people get KTFO cold, but just seems to me if your watching a UFC match your more likely to see it than in a boxing match.
    Plus, the thing about UFC is there isn't that many fights so every fight they have are suppose to 2 top notch spectacular superstars. In boxing there's much more fights so you get lucky if you get to see 2 so called bums fight, and it turns out good...If it doesn't then you expected it to suck. Most top fights with top fighters...Usually do as well as expected.
     
  10. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    After reading your post I have come to the simple conclusion your are an idiot!:-(
     
  11. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, I'm really tired of hearing people spout this sort of ignorance fueled tripe over and over again.
     
  12. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How old are you? 12?
     
  13. ShadowWorks

    ShadowWorks Active Member Full Member

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    In Dog years maybe.
     
  14. PUMPERG

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    Mma takeover!!! Exciting fights tonight!!! What does boxing got lined up lets see next month sugar shane vs margarrito !! Shane 10 yrs past prime!! What a joke
     
  15. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, and you got your idol on your avatar I see. That's really all that needs to be said about UFC. Heavyweight champion of the world BROCK LESNAR. Dude has a few MMA fights and already champion of the world. One loss I might add out of those few fights.
    How many pro boxers win the WHC within a few fights? I don't even think most WWE wrestlers are able to obtain the WHC within the first few matches they have...LOL
    Again, I was trying to not make it in to a flame war. If you got a problem with the **** I say your welcome to LMK if you actually want to explain it. I explained my side with trying to not be to BIASED, and explain my opinions. Figured everybody else (those who agree, disagree, and those who don't give a ****) could voice theres.