You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Primenal, Dec 27, 2008.


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  1. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    U dont know what you're talkin about. Simple as that. Pretty much go look for similar threads because its all cut-and-paste. Your arguments are that of a 10 year old boy. You brought nothing useful.
     
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  2. Griip

    Griip President of TFE Full Member

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    Once in a while theese stupid posts come alive, always the same but with different angles. You can't compare it like this. If a boxer would fight an MMA match he wouldn't use his normal guard, or normal defence stance.

    If you were to fight in MMA using a boxing guard you'd never be knocked out, never. But the thing is: In MMA you can't stand still taking punches on your gloves like boxing. In MMA when you're rushed or rushing in it has to go fast, you have to beat the other guy to the punch, blocking punches is not as easy and not used very much. And getting out of a flurry/slug fest.. woh, that's where most of the KOs come from.
     
    Griip, Dec 28, 2008
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  3. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow, actually somebody who explained something, and I do agree. I think there'd be a lot less KO's if they actually just kept there hands up though, didn't swing wildly, and bring there hands back to position. A few fighters seem to do this, but overall don't do a very good job. That's why I never liked Liddell...Dude could hit, but I'll be damned if he kept his hands up (that's why he got KTFO). Very sloppy.
    Also, a lot of time when they go for a kick they usually drop those hands, and there chin is definitely open. Might think I'm being a little to critical, but when you train as hard as I'm guessing they do...You should practice not dropping your hand whenever you throw something...
     
    Primenal, Dec 28, 2008
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  4. Killer Instinct

    Killer Instinct Be formless, shapeless... Full Member

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    ufc=glorified wwe
     
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  5. Griip

    Griip President of TFE Full Member

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    Well it's a lot about defending takedowns and kicks, in boxing you got 2 hands to be afraid of and in MMA 2 hands, 2 feet and takedowns.. + knees
     
    Griip, Dec 28, 2008
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  6. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    shut up!
     
    Polymath, Dec 28, 2008
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  7. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL! SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY EXPLAINED SOMETHING!?

    You're simply lucky he bothered to indulge your bull****.

    SHUT THE **** UP and go read the 1000 other pages in this forum that explain, in every minutia, the reasons that boxers cant just go to MMA and win.

    ****, the top tier KICKboxers in the world can't even go into MMA and win titles without lots of serious crosstraining.
     
    codeman99998, Dec 28, 2008
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  8. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    dumbass
     
    québecwarrior, Dec 28, 2008
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  9. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    I'm starting to think all these devastating ko's from lame punches in mma are partly because of the small 4 oz gloves. Surely they can't all have such weak chins.
     
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  10. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every boxer that enters into kickboxing competition gets beat up badly with kicks.
     
    Beebs, Dec 28, 2008
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  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chuck kept his hands low so that whenever somebody shot for a takedown he would be able to use his wrestling background to sprawl and get double underhooks, it was the reason he was able to beat most people who tried to take him down.
     
    Beebs, Dec 28, 2008
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  12. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DON'T SAY THAT! Your gonna get called a 12 year old mental ****** like I apparently am. That was exactly why I made the thread. I couldn't believe that these MMA superstars...Who are apparently in tip top shape (some of them definitely look it) getting KTFO by jabs, and ****!!
    I agree with Griip, but still do believe a little of GREAT boxers have a good *chance* of beating a lot of MMA superstars with MMA rules. Good hands will win you a lot of battles, and I'm sure if any of these great boxers were to train to fight MMA for say 6 months they'd be very much ready to compete.
    Anybody disagree with that statement? That in 6 months a GREAT boxer...Were talking about a prime Bernard Hopkins, RJJ, Vitali Klitshko, etc...Anybody think they STILL wouldn't stand a chance? If Kimbo gets knocked out with a jab from a no name dude that weighs 20 pounds less...I think Vitali jabs him, and paralyzes him.
     
    Primenal, Dec 28, 2008
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  13. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Apparently you have been living in a cave, but this is not a hypothetical situation, many boxers have entered MMA, nearly without exception they have been beaten without any trouble at all.

    6 months is not anywhere near enough time to stop somebody who is world class at putting people on the ground and break limbs.
     
    Beebs, Dec 28, 2008
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  14. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Beebs, Dec 28, 2008
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  15. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    Jeremy Williams is 5-0 in mma, & even he is past his best as a boxer. The problem is most boxers are already shot & aren't even willing to put in required the training for mma when they "cross over", if you can even call it that.

    ....why the **** noobs keep posting Erikson-Skelton in these discussions is beyond me. It was essentially a wrestler vs kickboxer. A kickboxer who switched to boxing after that, showed no speed or talent to speak of & was nothing more than a domestic level fighter.
     
    sitiyzal, Dec 28, 2008
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