You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

Wow, nobody in the whole wide world can see it cept you.

Maybe we're smart enough to realize that smaller gloves = greater damage. Maybe everyone in the world is... Cept you.

 

I don't think you punch harder with smaller gloves(at least not significantly) but precision definitely makes a huge difference.

 

Smaller gloves doesn't = greater damage in the way that people here are probably thinking of it.

The amount of force is equal, but the distrubution of force is over a more concentrated area with the 4oz grappling gloves that MMA fighters use. With boxing gloves, the force is distrubuted over a greater surface area.

 

Excellent contribution.

 

by the time the mma fighter tries to throw a kick the boxer will already have a 3 punch combination on his weak ass chin, and down he goes

 

:thumbsup

 

I'm not sure as to the science of it, but from my own experience in sparring I've felt punches from the same guys with a variety of glove weights and lighter definitely equals more force. The difference between a 16oz sparring glove and a 10oz is pretty scary. It's particularly noticeable in regards to facial damage, I've found. I can only imagine what it would be like getting clocked by some **** wearing 4oz, even if he does throw sloppy, **** punches...

 

This topic has been done to death. If anyone really cares it would be of benefit to trawl through all the previous threads dedicated to this topic- rather than rehash it over and over again.

 

thankz bro i guess u could sense u were getting a lil long winded as well

as you were

 

As have I. You're feeling exactly what I said above. The distrubution of force over a given surface area. With boxing gloves, or larger gloves, the distrubution of force of over a greater surface area, thus you're still getting the same total amount of force, but it's over a greater area, thus less pressure is given over a greater area.

With grappling gloves, the same force will be given with the exact same punch, but the damage will appear greater because a smaller surface is effected. The distrubution of force is over a much smaller surface area thus the force is more concentrated.

You don't hit hand harder, psi-wise, just that it feels different due to the distrubution of force/kinetic energy over a given surface.

 

I'm not stoked that this stupid thread got bumped but at least it got bumped. If you take a look, this is actually an old thread that got bumped and at least that's better than someone making a new one.

 

PSI is pounds per square inch of force right? It seems to me that if you throw a punch with the same force, but have smaller gloves (less square inches) the PSI would be higher on a smaller area.

 

It is. My phrasing may have been a little off, but the total force is equal when thrown from a boxing gloves (regardless of oz) and that of a grappling gloves.

The total, cumulative force, is equal, just distrubuted over a different surface area. (More concentrated for a grappling gloves, and less for a boxing glove)

The only thing that increases the amount of force is when you throw sans the gloves. If you throw bare knuckle, then you have a much greater impact.

 

Well, if throwing with no gloves means greater force than throwing with smaller gloves must mean greater force.

With physics taking the problem to the extremes helps to understand smaller differences, I find. Obviously if someone threw a punch with 40oz gloves (a crazy thing) the force would be less (or, even if the force was the same the impact wouldn't be as harsh) as if the person threw with 4oz gloves. Taking this extreme into account, it only makes sense that smaller gloves mean more damaging blows.

 

Actually, you'd think. But with quite a bit of physics nowadays, alot of the "common sense" is often counterintuitive.

Yes, it's shown that throwing a punch without a glove gives you a far greater force.

But, it's also shown that throwing a punch with a grappling glove (again, 4oz) gives you equal force to throwing that same punch (with like force) gives you roughly the exact same total force. The only difference is the distrubution of kinetic energy and the surface area effected.

As I've said, the smaller gloves do mean more damaging blows, but not because the force is that much greater, but because of the smaller surface area that is effected. Same force, but smaller surface area, means greater damage to a smaller surface.