Id win no doubt about it. Toney is a complete novice im certain in the little time he trained he was taught more takedown defense then any Jiujitsu. Ive been doing BJJ for over 2 years, have had my Bluebelt for over a year and im an active competitor in competitions. Ive finished 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 1st and 2nd in my tournaments. All Toney would have on me is some weight.
Definitly not arguing with you just bringing up some counter points. Toney lost to a great grappler.... He is by all reports strong... He is a better natural athelete then any of us.
Yes he lost to a great grappler but its not like showed any skill at all in that defeat. I dont really know what makes him a better athlete is because hes black ? The man is in his 40s and fat as hell theres nothing athletic about him at this point in his life. Toney gets by in boxing now because he is so much more skilled then his opponets. Maybe 15-20 years ago he was a tremendous athlete but those days are looooonnnggg gone.
I'd beat Toney in a grappling match too. Take him down just like Couture did - except Randy was nice. Randy only went for a chokehold. You tap and it's all over. I'd go for an ankle or something nasty to make a real example out of Toney. Tough guys don't like to tap to ankle locks as quick until it's too late and then - snap. End of career.
No because he was a world class competator in a very athletic sport.....he would still, today be a handful at heavyweight for all but the very very elite fighters. Sorry Jimmy..he is a better athlete then you or I.
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Name is Jimmie not Jimmy. What at this point makes him a better athlete ? Does he run faster, does he jump higher or what ? If you tell me GSP, Edgar, Jon Jones, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Mosley, Pascal etc are better athletes im like well you exactly right. Im 22 years old and ive been competing in sports since as long as I can remember. Im 100 percent sure I can beat some old fat guy who has great boxing skills in a 40 yard dash, or a vertical leap or something like that. Old guys like RJJ would be different but Toney is so out of shape and past his prime even his balance and coordination is off at this point.
How many of you boys think you would beat him in a fight ? He is not an athlete now, no man who weighed a fit 160 is an athlete at 240
My God me & my ****** brain stand corrected. I must be an idiot for thinking you are trolling by dismissing Jimmie's grappling credentials because a natural 160lber who's ballooned to 240lbs and has no grappling experience except being choked out by Randy is a better athlete and would so obviously kick Jimmie's ass Ive got to go, there's only 5 minutes till Wapner
well moron-o...i didnt actually say jimmie wouldnt win...i dont really know anything about Jimmie except for what he said about himself. But I do stand by the statement that even if a guy like Toney is fat and all..he is still a world class athlete if he was a world champ..and is still competive with the top ten in his divison. Hence I would say that with all do respect he is likely a better athlete then any of us..now does that mean he would win the grappling match? depends on how much grappling the guys here have done..though as for Jim..not sure if 2 years....which really isnt much...is enough to be confident of victory.